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	<title>Comments on: How The Current Church Logo Came About</title>
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		<title>By: Christian Pulfer</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2005/07/26/how-the-current-church-logo-came-about/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Pulfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and the man who designed the original logo is Randall Smith. His company is called Modern 8.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and the man who designed the original logo is Randall Smith. His company is called Modern 8.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Pulfer</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2005/07/26/how-the-current-church-logo-came-about/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Pulfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the son of the man who designed the Church logo.  I can assure you that my father worked tirelessly at the logo for nearly a year... and he had the logo narrowed down to two that both met his approval.  One contained an underline below the Jesus-Christ and the other is the one that the Church chose.  In the end, I do believe my father finished the job and what we see is what he was inspired to create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the son of the man who designed the Church logo.  I can assure you that my father worked tirelessly at the logo for nearly a year&#8230; and he had the logo narrowed down to two that both met his approval.  One contained an underline below the Jesus-Christ and the other is the one that the Church chose.  In the end, I do believe my father finished the job and what we see is what he was inspired to create.</p>
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		<title>By: S Hancock</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2005/07/26/how-the-current-church-logo-came-about/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>S Hancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 05:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geoff,
That was me--Steve H--not trying to be anonymous, but doing so anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoff,<br />
That was me&#8211;Steve H&#8211;not trying to be anonymous, but doing so anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2005/07/26/how-the-current-church-logo-came-about/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 03:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha!  I agree anon.  I certainly wouldn't ever be that rude either (GA or not).  I just used the exact quote for effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  I agree anon.  I certainly wouldn&#8217;t ever be that rude either (GA or not).  I just used the exact quote for effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2005/07/26/how-the-current-church-logo-came-about/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RT,
Logos don't make logical appeals.

Seems pretty easy to me... Just say "You don't know what the heck you are talking about in this (non-spiritual) thing".

I almost agree. You say "Actually, current practice is to do it this way." You explain why. You talk with them in an intelligent way. They would probably like the fact that you take them seriously. Not because they are GAs, because no one likes to be told that they don't know what the heck they talk about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RT,<br />
Logos don&#8217;t make logical appeals.</p>
<p>Seems pretty easy to me&#8230; Just say &#8220;You don&#8217;t know what the heck you are talking about in this (non-spiritual) thing&#8221;.</p>
<p>I almost agree. You say &#8220;Actually, current practice is to do it this way.&#8221; You explain why. You talk with them in an intelligent way. They would probably like the fact that you take them seriously. Not because they are GAs, because no one likes to be told that they don&#8217;t know what the heck they talk about.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff J</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2005/07/26/how-the-current-church-logo-came-about/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty: &lt;i&gt; how do you tell a member of the 12 that he doesn't know what the heck he's talking about (in non-spiritual things)?&lt;/i&gt;

Seems pretty easy to me... Just say "You don't know what the heck you are talking about in this (non-spiritual) thing".  I think we get a little too into the demigod thing with church leaders sometimes. We are under covenant to build up the kingdom not kiss up to church leaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty: <i> how do you tell a member of the 12 that he doesn&#8217;t know what the heck he&#8217;s talking about (in non-spiritual things)?</i></p>
<p>Seems pretty easy to me&#8230; Just say &#8220;You don&#8217;t know what the heck you are talking about in this (non-spiritual) thing&#8221;.  I think we get a little too into the demigod thing with church leaders sometimes. We are under covenant to build up the kingdom not kiss up to church leaders.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2005/07/26/how-the-current-church-logo-came-about/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 06:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared/Tess, 
Oh, I know a guy that worked in the design department in the Church office building and had one too many encounters with a very, very high-up who because he worked in printing 40 years ago thinks he knows how to set the type in the books. And dictated as such. This is one of the biggest reasons I could never work in the COB, how do you tell a member of the 12 that he doesn't know what the heck he's talking about (in non-spiritual things)?

Greg,
I'm sorry, I don't know anything about the old logo other than who designed it, and that information comes secondhand. He's the dad of a friend of ours, I don't know his first name but his last name is Smith (yeah, I know, very helpful) and he still works in Salt Lake. It was in the 70's I'm pretty sure. Sorry, I don't know anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared/Tess,<br />
Oh, I know a guy that worked in the design department in the Church office building and had one too many encounters with a very, very high-up who because he worked in printing 40 years ago thinks he knows how to set the type in the books. And dictated as such. This is one of the biggest reasons I could never work in the COB, how do you tell a member of the 12 that he doesn&#8217;t know what the heck he&#8217;s talking about (in non-spiritual things)?</p>
<p>Greg,<br />
I&#8217;m sorry, I don&#8217;t know anything about the old logo other than who designed it, and that information comes secondhand. He&#8217;s the dad of a friend of ours, I don&#8217;t know his first name but his last name is Smith (yeah, I know, very helpful) and he still works in Salt Lake. It was in the 70&#8217;s I&#8217;m pretty sure. Sorry, I don&#8217;t know anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2005/07/26/how-the-current-church-logo-came-about/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 04:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post makes me think that the Church should separate clearly administrative decisions from the spiritual mission. Just because you are called to be a GA doesn't mean you have the specialized knowledge to tend to the details of running the Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post makes me think that the Church should separate clearly administrative decisions from the spiritual mission. Just because you are called to be a GA doesn&#8217;t mean you have the specialized knowledge to tend to the details of running the Church.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2005/07/26/how-the-current-church-logo-came-about/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 03:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post.

We recently had a facilities manager speak in sacrament meeting--encouraging us to take care of the building and such.

He said the our carpet is going to be replaced--that it only lasted half of the time it was supposed to, and if I remember correctly, such had been the case in many buildings. Apparently the Church dictated to the carpet manufacturer the specifications of the carpet. He said they've learned their lesson and will not dictate the specifications this time (ie. listen to the professionals).

I don't know whether this kind of thing (dictating to the experts) is SOP or not, but it doesn't sound like it should be rewarded.

(I heard that a GA once refered to the building dept as the part of the Church that isn't true.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post.</p>
<p>We recently had a facilities manager speak in sacrament meeting&#8211;encouraging us to take care of the building and such.</p>
<p>He said the our carpet is going to be replaced&#8211;that it only lasted half of the time it was supposed to, and if I remember correctly, such had been the case in many buildings. Apparently the Church dictated to the carpet manufacturer the specifications of the carpet. He said they&#8217;ve learned their lesson and will not dictate the specifications this time (ie. listen to the professionals).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether this kind of thing (dictating to the experts) is SOP or not, but it doesn&#8217;t sound like it should be rewarded.</p>
<p>(I heard that a GA once refered to the building dept as the part of the Church that isn&#8217;t true.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty, I assume your question of why God didn't tell the church the old logo was crap was meant to be rhetorical, right? Like we could ever know the answer to that and frankly, who cares?
So will they have to change the typeface again when we switch to Adamic? I wonder what that alphbet looks like. Maybe we'll have to use Adam's Book of Remembrance as a template...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty, I assume your question of why God didn&#8217;t tell the church the old logo was crap was meant to be rhetorical, right? Like we could ever know the answer to that and frankly, who cares?<br />
So will they have to change the typeface again when we switch to Adamic? I wonder what that alphbet looks like. Maybe we&#8217;ll have to use Adam&#8217;s Book of Remembrance as a template&#8230;</p>
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