Comments on: Macbeth and My Patriarchal Blessing http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:49:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Stealtharachnid http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2975 Stealtharachnid Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:42:02 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2975 It isn't rocket science. So perplexed you all are. All blessings are predicated on personal righteousness, and good judgement. If I move next to a toxic waste fill after getting by PB. I die early in life. It isn’t rocket science.
So perplexed you all are.
All blessings are predicated on personal righteousness, and good judgement.
If I move next to a toxic waste fill after getting by PB. I die early in life.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2974 Anonymous Tue, 28 Feb 2006 01:22:57 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2974 Perhaps a fuller understanding of the Great Question can come from a deeper understanding of the nature of prophecy. I’ve found that many people (i.e. members of the Church) assume that the Spirit offers insights into some concrete idea of the future or foretells destiny. However, I’m not totally convinced of this. Maybe when a person prophesies (and being a hopeless sinner I’ve not had much opportunity to do much prophesying myself) he or she doesn’t see a clear picture of some concrete future; maybe it’s more of a vague glimpse instead of a most-likely outcome. I guess that what I’m getting at is that maybe there isn’t as much of a need for individuals to have an extremely unique and personal insight into future events. That’s hard for a lot of people to accept –that the Spirit may not offer quite that much personally catered guidance for every facet of their lives. Seen in that light, maybe the fallacy is placing too much importance on the Great Question to begin with. Maybe the purpose of a patriarchal blessing or a general prophecy was never to foretell down-to-the last-detail specifics in the first place. So when you ask yourself if the prophecy will come to pass whether you work towards it or not, perhaps you should consider if you were even meant to ask that question in the first place. In other words, if you’re expecting a specific event to happen in a prescribed way, maybe that’s not how it was ever meant to be taken. Perhaps a fuller understanding of the Great Question can come from a deeper understanding of the nature of prophecy. I’ve found that many people (i.e. members of the Church) assume that the Spirit offers insights into some concrete idea of the future or foretells destiny. However, I’m not totally convinced of this. Maybe when a person prophesies (and being a hopeless sinner I’ve not had much opportunity to do much prophesying myself) he or she doesn’t see a clear picture of some concrete future; maybe it’s more of a vague glimpse instead of a most-likely outcome.

I guess that what I’m getting at is that maybe there isn’t as much of a need for individuals to have an extremely unique and personal insight into future events. That’s hard for a lot of people to accept –that the Spirit may not offer quite that much personally catered guidance for every facet of their lives. Seen in that light, maybe the fallacy is placing too much importance on the Great Question to begin with. Maybe the purpose of a patriarchal blessing or a general prophecy was never to foretell down-to-the last-detail specifics in the first place.

So when you ask yourself if the prophecy will come to pass whether you work towards it or not, perhaps you should consider if you were even meant to ask that question in the first place. In other words, if you’re expecting a specific event to happen in a prescribed way, maybe that’s not how it was ever meant to be taken.

]]> By: Bret http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2973 Bret Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:49:00 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2973 I'm with Eric's comment on this one. I heard a really good talk on "seeking out" the blessings of our PBs. She told the story of two people and their blessings. One of a guy a century ago who had all sorts of promises but squandered them all. Another of her son who, so far, gained something in his blessing because he sought it out and worked for it. Not that EVERY belssing can be achieved by seeking them out, but it is important to do. I’m with Eric’s comment on this one.

I heard a really good talk on “seeking out” the blessings of our PBs. She told the story of two people and their blessings. One of a guy a century ago who had all sorts of promises but squandered them all. Another of her son who, so far, gained something in his blessing because he sought it out and worked for it.

Not that EVERY belssing can be achieved by seeking them out, but it is important to do.

]]> By: don http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2972 don Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:07:15 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2972 I don't know about the friends part, but I sure could use some of the money sharing part! I don’t know about the friends part, but I sure could use some of the money sharing part!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2971 Anonymous Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:57:32 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2971 Won't you die or something if you say the name of the Scottish play? Don, yeah, you made me laugh out loud, too. Stealtharachnid, we're not strangers, we're all friends. Hell, we're almost family. I can see me coming up to you in the hall at church and saying, "stealtharachnid, how ya doin'?" Some of these names just slay me. I'm thinking Spiderman. Totally off topic, but I'm punch drunk this morning. ON TOPIC: My patriarchial blessing promises me that I will always have lots of good friends and that I will have money and the privilege of sharing it. So far, so good. Won’t you die or something if you say the name of the Scottish play?

Don, yeah, you made me laugh out loud, too.

Stealtharachnid, we’re not strangers, we’re all friends. Hell, we’re almost family.

I can see me coming up to you in the hall at church and saying, “stealtharachnid, how ya doin’?”

Some of these names just slay me. I’m thinking Spiderman. Totally off topic, but I’m punch drunk this morning.

ON TOPIC: My patriarchial blessing promises me that I will always have lots of good friends and that I will have money and the privilege of sharing it. So far, so good.

]]> By: Ariel http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2970 Ariel Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:05:20 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2970 Eric, that's a good point. I take my school-related blessings to mean that I will have the ability to do what they promise, and outside circumstances won't prevent it. (Like, I trust that if I plan to graduate in a normal amount of time, I'll have the ability to do the work, and the world isn't going to blow up before then and prevent me from graduating.) Eric, that’s a good point. I take my school-related blessings to mean that I will have the ability to do what they promise, and outside circumstances won’t prevent it. (Like, I trust that if I plan to graduate in a normal amount of time, I’ll have the ability to do the work, and the world isn’t going to blow up before then and prevent me from graduating.)

]]> By: Eric Russell http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2969 Eric Russell Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:27:18 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2969 I think you have to work for it, and in ways that go beyond simply being obedient. My PB blessed me that I would be “successful” in my education, but that doesn’t mean that simply being faithful in keeping commandments ever would bring me good grades. Perhaps the blessing that a PB is bestowing is that we will have the knowledge necessary in order to make its promises come about. In other words, a blessing of good health may just mean that you will have the knowledge or capacity to live a healthy lifestyle. I think you have to work for it, and in ways that go beyond simply being obedient. My PB blessed me that I would be “successful” in my education, but that doesn’t mean that simply being faithful in keeping commandments ever would bring me good grades. Perhaps the blessing that a PB is bestowing is that we will have the knowledge necessary in order to make its promises come about. In other words, a blessing of good health may just mean that you will have the knowledge or capacity to live a healthy lifestyle.

]]> By: Chad Too http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2968 Chad Too Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:11:05 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2968 Oh, Rusty, you're missing out! You haven't lived until you've kicked back on a hot Saturday evening with an ice-cold glass of gasoline. ;-) Just skip the Cherries Jubilee for dessert. Oh, Rusty, you’re missing out! You haven’t lived until you’ve kicked back on a hot Saturday evening with an ice-cold glass of gasoline. ;-)
Just skip the Cherries Jubilee for dessert.

]]> By: David J http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2967 David J Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:57:17 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2967 don, that's hilarious! Mine was given to me after I received my call, and so the patriarch blessed me to learn the Portuguese language (Brazil). Well, it was sitting out one day on my desk, and at that time I was dating a nosy girlfriend, and she came over before I got home from class, and just waited for me in my room. She picked it up and started reading it (to my horror!) and when I came through the door she told me it was amazing that the patriarch "prophecied" where I would go and what language I would learn. I never told her that I received the blessing after my call. tee hee. don, that’s hilarious! Mine was given to me after I received my call, and so the patriarch blessed me to learn the Portuguese language (Brazil). Well, it was sitting out one day on my desk, and at that time I was dating a nosy girlfriend, and she came over before I got home from class, and just waited for me in my room. She picked it up and started reading it (to my horror!) and when I came through the door she told me it was amazing that the patriarch “prophecied” where I would go and what language I would learn.

I never told her that I received the blessing after my call. tee hee.

]]> By: don http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/02/22/macbeth-and-my-patriarchal-blessing/#comment-2966 don Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:22:01 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=241#comment-2966 Mine tells me that if I am required to learn a foreign language on my mission, it would come easy to me. My first area in Stamford England was fairly easy, but Birmingham was much more difficult. Maybe my next mission?! My thoughts....keep the commandments and let the chips and PB blessing fall where they may. Mine tells me that if I am required to learn a foreign language on my mission, it would come easy to me.

My first area in Stamford England was fairly easy, but Birmingham was much more difficult.

Maybe my next mission?!

My thoughts….keep the commandments and let the chips and PB blessing fall where they may.

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