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		<title>By: annegb</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3447</link>
		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 20:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've put my e-mail address out from time to time and I haven't gotten any bad results yet.  Lucky, I guess.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve put my e-mail address out from time to time and I haven&#8217;t gotten any bad results yet.  Lucky, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3446</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 08:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(to Mom and Dad:) In case that wasn't clear, when I said, "I hope mine can do the same someday" I was talking about my children doing the same; not hoping I can forgive you someday...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(to Mom and Dad:) In case that wasn&#8217;t clear, when I said, &#8220;I hope mine can do the same someday&#8221; I was talking about my children doing the same; not hoping I can forgive you someday&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3445</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 08:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to change the email address again, Dad.  (Uhh, thanks Pete, for clearing up my wondering why people list their emails like that online...) 

What a nice Mother's Day card, Russ.  Dad printed it and took it home so Mom could read it, right?

Mom did do a terrific job.  And I think if I weren't her daughter, I might see her as one of those model mothers that makes the other moms feel guilty.  But our children know the worst about us -- they see all our weaknesses on a daily basis.  So I think it's marvelous when a child can forgive his/her parents for their faults and focus instead on being grateful for their strengths and efforts, as you have done.  I hope mine can do the same someday.

I hope I have a kid who turns out like you, Russ!  (No, not one who is like you were, growing up... ha ha)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to change the email address again, Dad.  (Uhh, thanks Pete, for clearing up my wondering why people list their emails like that online&#8230;) </p>
<p>What a nice Mother&#8217;s Day card, Russ.  Dad printed it and took it home so Mom could read it, right?</p>
<p>Mom did do a terrific job.  And I think if I weren&#8217;t her daughter, I might see her as one of those model mothers that makes the other moms feel guilty.  But our children know the worst about us &#8212; they see all our weaknesses on a daily basis.  So I think it&#8217;s marvelous when a child can forgive his/her parents for their faults and focus instead on being grateful for their strengths and efforts, as you have done.  I hope mine can do the same someday.</p>
<p>I hope I have a kid who turns out like you, Russ!  (No, not one who is like you were, growing up&#8230; ha ha)</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3444</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 04:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don: bad idea to post your email like that online, unless you don't mind lots of spam. A better way might be donaldclifton AT yahoo DOT com

Spammers use software to search for emails on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don: bad idea to post your email like that online, unless you don&#8217;t mind lots of spam. A better way might be donaldclifton AT yahoo DOT com</p>
<p>Spammers use software to search for emails on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: C Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3443</link>
		<dc:creator>C Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 06:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annegb- my daughter has a list she calls "the things I'll never forgive you for". She is only half joking. The things on her list are mostly things I never knew I was doing, and the things that I worried about and lay awake at night wondering if I was ruining her life- well, she doesn't remember them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annegb- my daughter has a list she calls &#8220;the things I&#8217;ll never forgive you for&#8221;. She is only half joking. The things on her list are mostly things I never knew I was doing, and the things that I worried about and lay awake at night wondering if I was ruining her life- well, she doesn&#8217;t remember them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3442</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 19:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's funny is that my last line originally had that phrase "motherhood by desperation" (that's why Annegb repeated it). Then Sara told me to take it out because she thought it sounded kind of negative, so I replaced it with that line. Maybe I should put it back the way it was before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s funny is that my last line originally had that phrase &#8220;motherhood by desperation&#8221; (that&#8217;s why Annegb repeated it). Then Sara told me to take it out because she thought it sounded kind of negative, so I replaced it with that line. Maybe I should put it back the way it was before.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3441</link>
		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 19:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty once made the statement that he was raised perfectly and wouldn't change a thing.  The results speak more than the process.

I think annegb is right, mothood by desperation.  Rusty's mom tried desperately to be a good mother, she did a fantastic job, in spite of me and her children...she was great, and we love her for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty once made the statement that he was raised perfectly and wouldn&#8217;t change a thing.  The results speak more than the process.</p>
<p>I think annegb is right, mothood by desperation.  Rusty&#8217;s mom tried desperately to be a good mother, she did a fantastic job, in spite of me and her children&#8230;she was great, and we love her for it.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3440</link>
		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 19:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>annegb, Can I email you privately? I'm at donaldclifton@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>annegb, Can I email you privately? I&#8217;m at <a href="mailto:donaldclifton@yahoo.com">donaldclifton@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3439</link>
		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 07:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Motherhood by desperation is probably the way most of us do it.  It's that one perfect example that makes life hard for the rest of us.

I tell you, every few days or so, I will be hit by the hardest feeling of guilt and remorse over James begging me to buy him Wranglers when he was in the 7th grade.  Which I immediately did, thinking my son was a little nutso.  They were perfectly good, brand new jeans, those toughskins.

And the last 14 years, I've thought, "why didn't I see I was damaging him for those 7 1/2 years (age 5-12) till he broke under the pressure and told me he had to wear a different brand?  What if?"

I'm going to tell you all that stuff and you tell me if your mother did it, and I will feel not so bad because it didn't make you kill yourself, okay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motherhood by desperation is probably the way most of us do it.  It&#8217;s that one perfect example that makes life hard for the rest of us.</p>
<p>I tell you, every few days or so, I will be hit by the hardest feeling of guilt and remorse over James begging me to buy him Wranglers when he was in the 7th grade.  Which I immediately did, thinking my son was a little nutso.  They were perfectly good, brand new jeans, those toughskins.</p>
<p>And the last 14 years, I&#8217;ve thought, &#8220;why didn&#8217;t I see I was damaging him for those 7 1/2 years (age 5-12) till he broke under the pressure and told me he had to wear a different brand?  What if?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to tell you all that stuff and you tell me if your mother did it, and I will feel not so bad because it didn&#8217;t make you kill yourself, okay?</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/05/14/mom/#comment-3438</link>
		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 07:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty, I'm going to study this, but I just wanted to say that I've always wondered if one of the reasons James killed himself is that I didn't realize how psychologically damaging wearing toughskins was to him.

These are the things that just torture me.  And I'm not joking, I'm serious.

I think I'm in the anger phase of mourning after 14 years.  "Rusty had to wear toughskins and he didn't shoot himself!  You big stupid!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty, I&#8217;m going to study this, but I just wanted to say that I&#8217;ve always wondered if one of the reasons James killed himself is that I didn&#8217;t realize how psychologically damaging wearing toughskins was to him.</p>
<p>These are the things that just torture me.  And I&#8217;m not joking, I&#8217;m serious.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m in the anger phase of mourning after 14 years.  &#8220;Rusty had to wear toughskins and he didn&#8217;t shoot himself!  You big stupid!&#8221;</p>
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