Comments on: Which is More Important - Pre-mortal, Mortal, or Millenium Life?

By: Eastman-Spiritual adventurer

Eastman-Spiritual adventurer — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:13:51 +0000

If the true doctrine of Christ and the early churches, were still intact, we could clearly see the our re-incarnations change the whole picture. All will be “saved”
eventually, we will pay our Karmic debt, by coming back here and fixing the crap we created, experience the first ressurection (our awareness 0f our Divinity) and then our “illumination” the second ressurection, and then we will be with the big souls doing big things, in Spirit. Fun stuff!

By: Todd Wood

Todd Wood — Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:20:19 +0000

Don, let me explain . .
It was this comment, “What’s up with that, that they get a free ride to the other side” that produced some chuckles. Fair enough? And you can laugh all you want at any thing I post.

In reading my blog on Being versus Becoming, you don’t see any difference between the Greek verb, en, and the other verb, egenoto?

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 03 Nov 2006 03:31:00 +0000

So much of who we are and what we become in this life is, in fact, determined by our genetics — our general states of physical and mental health, our athletic and cognitive abilities, our appearance and level of attractiveness. (Numerous studies on this last factor alone — not to mention common sense — all agree that it’s *very* significant to the results we will attain in life). Apparently, whoever is in charge of doling out the most desirable genetic traits must have reason to distribute them quite unfairly.

When a baby’s life is cut short by a genetic mutation (or other circumstance over which it appears to have no control) — which happens all the time — are we to conclude that it was a result of its own choosing prior to this life, or as a result of an omniscient creator who intentionally gave it out?

Good and evil are concepts that only make sense in the context of mortality. That which is “good” enhances life (actually, our ability to propagate and thereby preserve our own genes), that which is “evil” destroys it — hence it’s a value system based on this standard. An immortal being would find this set of values completely irrelevant. (If you can’t die, what needs would you have? Certainly very few which resemble the needs of this life — perhaps the need to somehow avoid boredom, but that’s about it). Therefore, if this life is supposedly a preparatory state for the next, why is that which is claimed to be most important (i.e. our individual responses to choices of “good” vs. “evil”) almost completely irrelevant to the next?

By: Stephen M (Ethesis)

Stephen M (Ethesis) — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 04:35:04 +0000

http://ethesis.blogspot.com/2006/10/blog-traffic-history-themes-and-posts.html

I write about what it means to be just a thousand years old.

By: Eric Nielson

Eric Nielson — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 13:41:01 +0000

Don:

I think our pre-mortal life dominates who we are and how we will be judged ultimately. I think this life for most is a quick technicality to wrap up a few details in preparation for an eternal life after the resurrection.

By: Rob Osborn

Rob Osborn — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 05:27:35 +0000

Don,

Great post. This life is way too short for it to be some kind of final test for all eternity for sure. I like the pattern given in our holy temples the best. We all are here on the Telestial kingdom right now and if we repent in our mortal lifes or in spirit prison from our sins we can be heirs to the Terrestrial Kingdom for the thousand years in order to perfect ourselves and our desires in a righteous and wholesome manner. If we endure faithfully through this 1000 year period, we will be given an inheritance on the right hand of God while all the rest will be cast out.

By: Bret

Bret — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:03:25 +0000

What about the ol’ “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks” syndrome? One of the hardest parts of life (and possibly all existence?) is getting used to our ways and the way we do things. If that happens through the pre-mortal into mortal and post-mortal life, repentence is probebly all the harder.

Rusty,
I always thought of normal as “terrestial.” So good luck with that! (j/k)

By: Don Clifton

Don Clifton — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 00:43:22 +0000

Todd, I’m sorry you’re laughing. I find nothing in your blog or comments, nor in the book of John anything that is in disagreement with a pre-mortal life. I don’t connect John’s comments about him / his relationship to Jesus / or the sequence in their birth as anything to do with pre-mortal life - only their mortal life and relationship.

By: Don Clifton

Don Clifton — Wed, 01 Nov 2006 00:37:10 +0000

Susan, thanks for your comments. They have given more to think about…your vision analogy is terrific.

By: Susan M

Susan M — Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:16:09 +0000

I’ve always wondered about how much of what we are in this life is who we really are. Not sure I can explain this well. But it seems like so much of who we are is dependent on physical things that won’t be with us later. Chemical imbalances, ADHD, health issues, etc, all affect our thinking and our emotional selves.

I like to make the analogy of our vision. We can see straight ahead. If we concentrate, we can see stuff in our peripheral vision. But there’s all that stuff behind us we can’t see. That’s how I view mortal life. There’s so much going on spiritually around us, and before we came here, that we can’t see. And I wonder if that’s what we are in this life—a fraction of our true selves.