Comments on: The strength of Nephi http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/11/19/the-strength-of-nephi/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:09:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Bret http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/11/19/the-strength-of-nephi/#comment-5157 Bret Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:33:45 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5157 Seth R, Yes. Seth R,

Yes.

]]> By: Seth R. http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/11/19/the-strength-of-nephi/#comment-5156 Seth R. Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:59:05 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5156 Wait a sec Bret... Do you mean a) you hang around here so that your own faltering can make it easier for me to be strong, b) you hang around here so that my faltering will make it easier for you to be strong, or c) I'm showing the beginning effects of sleep deprivation Wait a sec Bret… Do you mean

a) you hang around here so that your own faltering can make it easier for me to be strong,

b) you hang around here so that my faltering will make it easier for you to be strong, or

c) I’m showing the beginning effects of sleep deprivation

]]> By: Bret http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/11/19/the-strength-of-nephi/#comment-5153 Bret Tue, 21 Nov 2006 07:44:10 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5153 Why do you think I hang around the Bloggernacle? Why do you think I hang around the Bloggernacle?

]]> By: Seth R. http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/11/19/the-strength-of-nephi/#comment-5150 Seth R. Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:24:39 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5150 I think the sad thing here is that Nephi's display of unwavering faithfulness came at the expense of Lehi's authority. Lehi was pretty much firmly in charge of things as patriarch up until this point. After the bow incident however, he lost a lot of that authority and never got it back. His murmuring de-legitimized him in the eyes of <em>all</em> his children, including Laman and Lemuel. From this point in the story, it becomes Nephi's show. He is now the one making the decisions. Lehi fades into obscurity. It's partly his own fault, of course. But it's still unfortunate. I think the sad thing here is that Nephi’s display of unwavering faithfulness came at the expense of Lehi’s authority. Lehi was pretty much firmly in charge of things as patriarch up until this point.

After the bow incident however, he lost a lot of that authority and never got it back. His murmuring de-legitimized him in the eyes of all his children, including Laman and Lemuel.

From this point in the story, it becomes Nephi’s show. He is now the one making the decisions. Lehi fades into obscurity. It’s partly his own fault, of course. But it’s still unfortunate.

]]> By: Susan M http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/11/19/the-strength-of-nephi/#comment-5149 Susan M Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:42:20 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5149 <em>Sometimes I think it is easier to be strong when those around you falter.</em> That's what I was trying to get at. Sometimes I think it is easier to be strong when those around you falter.

That’s what I was trying to get at.

]]> By: Don Clifton http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/11/19/the-strength-of-nephi/#comment-5148 Don Clifton Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:39:27 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5148 My father was inactive my entire growing up. He wasn't a bad father, just inactive. When I decided to go on my mission he offered to help me fix my 55 plymouth with a hemi and I could stay and go to college plus he offered no financial support - 7 kids made the $$$ part difficult. He finally agreed to pay part of my mission, my brother who left 60 months later was supported completely by the ward. Was it easy - no! Did it make me stronger as you point out Susan - yes! As I reflect on your comments and my experience I think maybe part of it for me was it gave me something I could stand up against my father. I could be strong and he couldn't change that. Sometimes I think it is easier to be strong when those around you falter. My father was inactive my entire growing up. He wasn’t a bad father, just inactive. When I decided to go on my mission he offered to help me fix my 55 plymouth with a hemi and I could stay and go to college plus he offered no financial support - 7 kids made the $$$ part difficult. He finally agreed to pay part of my mission, my brother who left 60 months later was supported completely by the ward.

Was it easy - no! Did it make me stronger as you point out Susan - yes! As I reflect on your comments and my experience I think maybe part of it for me was it gave me something I could stand up against my father. I could be strong and he couldn’t change that.

Sometimes I think it is easier to be strong when those around you falter.

]]> By: Eric Nielson http://www.nine-moons.com/2006/11/19/the-strength-of-nephi/#comment-5147 Eric Nielson Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:42:22 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5147 Very interesting toughts here. I wonder then, why are the saints always instructed to gather. Is there not strength in numbers? Very interesting toughts here.

I wonder then, why are the saints always instructed to gather. Is there not strength in numbers?

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