Comments on: “The Truth Will Set You Free” Is A Lie http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:08:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Archie http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-10091 Archie Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:48:55 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-10091 So often we are ensnared by our own self-deception. In a garden if you let a weed alone, it will be very difficult to uproot. Carnal things grow without work and give us strange fruits without effort, but they require some truth to pervert. They are wed to idleness. Humility requires work daily, to uproot the daily weeds of pride (the fog is everywhere, even over the iron rod). If you did not know it, then the disadvantage is yours. But truth is free, without price and unbiased. Many know not where to look, but they seek the knowledge that would deliver them from their bondage of darkness. The truth that shall set you free is knowledge which shall enable you to work in your garden-heart. The higher the law that we receive, then the higher our potential to be like god will be. Or in other words, the more truth we get then the more knowledge we will have in becoming like god. So, one way of thinking about it is that the truth will set us free from the lie or self-deceptive way of living. So often we are ensnared by our own self-deception. In a garden if you let a weed alone, it will be very difficult to uproot. Carnal things grow without work and give us strange fruits without effort, but they require some truth to pervert. They are wed to idleness. Humility requires work daily, to uproot the daily weeds of pride (the fog is everywhere, even over the iron rod). If you did not know it, then the disadvantage is yours. But truth is free, without price and unbiased. Many know not where to look, but they seek the knowledge that would deliver them from their bondage of darkness.

The truth that shall set you free is knowledge which shall enable you to work in your garden-heart. The higher the law that we receive, then the higher our potential to be like god will be. Or in other words, the more truth we get then the more knowledge we will have in becoming like god.

So, one way of thinking about it is that the truth will set us free from the lie or self-deceptive way of living.

]]> By: Archie http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-10089 Archie Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:11:24 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-10089 Truth becomes inconvenient when we build a reputation for ourselves out of pride. But if we are humble then we are immune to attacks on our reputation--which technically only exist to be worshipped when we are prideful. Truth is always ideal--when the whole is humble--but not ideal if we're disillusioned with pride. Pride is based in comparison. One cannot be prideful without first making a comparison of sorts. A question like, "Does this make me look fat?" so often begets a comparison to another ideal. If I answered, "it makes you look fat," and she angered, then she would not have been honest with herself, for she will have convinced herself that my comment was attacking her image, which self-idol she might not have had were she humble. The pride is the lie. When you convince yourself that you are superior to "them", you are then puffed up in lies. Any truth at that point will be anything but ideal. Gideon destroyed his father's idols thereby gaining many enraged enemies--he destroyed an image that they worshipped. They sought his life because of his blatant disrespect. Today we often worship our own image, as taught by our media, or someone else's image like Shiz and his giant bro Lib. Pride is similar to worshipping yourself, and destroying the pride of someone else will make them vengeful against you. Yet truth is still ideal, if you would stand with god. All were offended by Enoch, the "wild man" missionary. Laman and Lemuel didn't appreciate truth but pride. Messiah destroyed the pride of many by being truthful, gaining many offended enemies. He came to give us a sword and forsake [pride]; metaphorically, it was a sword of truth. I think his gift is ideal. Truth becomes inconvenient when we build a reputation for ourselves out of pride. But if we are humble then we are immune to attacks on our reputation–which technically only exist to be worshipped when we are prideful. Truth is always ideal–when the whole is humble–but not ideal if we’re disillusioned with pride. Pride is based in comparison. One cannot be prideful without first making a comparison of sorts. A question like, “Does this make me look fat?” so often begets a comparison to another ideal. If I answered, “it makes you look fat,” and she angered, then she would not have been honest with herself, for she will have convinced herself that my comment was attacking her image, which self-idol she might not have had were she humble. The pride is the lie. When you convince yourself that you are superior to “them”, you are then puffed up in lies. Any truth at that point will be anything but ideal.
Gideon destroyed his father’s idols thereby gaining many enraged enemies–he destroyed an image that they worshipped. They sought his life because of his blatant disrespect. Today we often worship our own image, as taught by our media, or someone else’s image like Shiz and his giant bro Lib. Pride is similar to worshipping yourself, and destroying the pride of someone else will make them vengeful against you. Yet truth is still ideal, if you would stand with god. All were offended by Enoch, the “wild man” missionary. Laman and Lemuel didn’t appreciate truth but pride. Messiah destroyed the pride of many by being truthful, gaining many offended enemies. He came to give us a sword and forsake [pride]; metaphorically, it was a sword of truth. I think his gift is ideal.

]]> By: Bret http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9522 Bret Fri, 30 Mar 2007 06:34:59 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9522 cj, Hence one of the many reasons why I'm still single I suppose... cj,

Hence one of the many reasons why I’m still single I suppose…

]]> By: Seth R. http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9496 Seth R. Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:46:39 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9496 When my wife asks that question, she actually wants a straight answer. So I tell her. If she wants flattery, that's not how she goes about it. When my wife asks that question, she actually wants a straight answer. So I tell her. If she wants flattery, that’s not how she goes about it.

]]> By: Matt W. http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9486 Matt W. Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:11:25 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9486 Her pants don't make her look fat, it's the fat that makes her look fat. So it's not a lie... Her pants don’t make her look fat, it’s the fat that makes her look fat. So it’s not a lie…

]]> By: cj douglass http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9483 cj douglass Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:57:17 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9483 Bret, Telling your wife her pants don't make her look fat is not a sin.....its a commandment. Bret,
Telling your wife her pants don’t make her look fat is not a sin…..its a commandment.

]]> By: Bret http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9419 Bret Thu, 29 Mar 2007 05:58:29 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9419 Rusty, That makes sense and of course, yes, I do those things myself. I guess I just wish our culture was a bit closer to Zion; assuming Enoch's city of Zion really could tell the whole truth all the time. That's my hope, anyhow:) Rusty,

That makes sense and of course, yes, I do those things myself.

I guess I just wish our culture was a bit closer to Zion; assuming Enoch’s city of Zion really could tell the whole truth all the time.

That’s my hope, anyhow:)

]]> By: Matt W. http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9416 Matt W. Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:16:22 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9416 weird, I don't lie in any of those situations... On the other hand, no one is dumb enough to really ask if the pants make them look fat, are they? weird, I don’t lie in any of those situations…

On the other hand, no one is dumb enough to really ask if the pants make them look fat, are they?

]]> By: Bookslinger http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9413 Bookslinger Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:26:51 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9413 Don, In the New Testament, Jesus often answered a question with a question, or answered indirectly. And he sometimes demanded of the questioner that they answer a question first. Don,
In the New Testament, Jesus often answered a question with a question, or answered indirectly. And he sometimes demanded of the questioner that they answer a question first.

]]> By: Bookslinger http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9412 Bookslinger Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:25:09 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/03/27/the-truth-will-set-you-free-is-a-lie/#comment-9412 "I think it’s a fallacy to believe that complete truth all the time is always ideal. There are just some truths that can’t be uttered, no matter how tactful you say them." As in, "not all truth is useful" ? “I think it’s a fallacy to believe that complete truth all the time is always ideal. There are just some truths that can’t be uttered, no matter how tactful you say them.”

As in, “not all truth is useful” ?

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