Comments on: Medicinal Beer http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:44:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: anon http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10587 anon Sat, 07 Apr 2007 23:07:13 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10587 Alcoholic enemas were in the new a few years ago when some celebrities (Dennis Rodman?) were taking "shots" via... ahem. You can still probably find it via google. Research how Marilyn Monroe was supposed to have been killed. Anyways, yes, alcohol absorbs very quickly into the body via the colon, much quicker than through the stomach. The colon is one big mucous membrane through which chemicals can pass. It's an osmosis and law of equal pressures/concentrations thing. Water will travel one way through the membrane and chemicals will travel the other way until the concentrations equal out. Alcoholic enemas were in the new a few years ago when some celebrities (Dennis Rodman?) were taking “shots” via… ahem. You can still probably find it via google. Research how Marilyn Monroe was supposed to have been killed.

Anyways, yes, alcohol absorbs very quickly into the body via the colon, much quicker than through the stomach. The colon is one big mucous membrane through which chemicals can pass.

It’s an osmosis and law of equal pressures/concentrations thing. Water will travel one way through the membrane and chemicals will travel the other way until the concentrations equal out.

]]> By: Tom http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10453 Tom Sat, 07 Apr 2007 03:05:10 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10453 Don, I had prefaced my comment with "gross-out warning!" but then I erased it because it was prissy. I admit that it was TMI. But what can you do? It's too funny not to mention it in a medicinal beer thread. Besides, I've always thought that, to paraphrase the Joker, "Nine Moons needs an enema!" Don, I had prefaced my comment with “gross-out warning!” but then I erased it because it was prissy. I admit that it was TMI. But what can you do? It’s too funny not to mention it in a medicinal beer thread.

Besides, I’ve always thought that, to paraphrase the Joker, “Nine Moons needs an enema!”

]]> By: Tatiana http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10448 Tatiana Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:11:38 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10448 Medicine is different. I agree that the beer was a good treatment for the kidney stone. My brother in law's doctor gave him the same advice. (He's Presbyterian, though, so has no WoW issues.) I sometimes take Excedrine Migraine, though the caffeine in it keeps me awake really late, then makes me feel horrible the next day. I am reluctant to take it because of those unpleasant side effects, but there are times when it's the best option for a bad headache. Even though I interpret the WoW to mean no caffeine now, and I quit drinking regular diet coke for good, I still believe in using caffeine as a drug when appropriate. (It's an exceedingly powerful one, as it turns out! I can't believe most people in our culture give it routinely to kids for no medical reason at all!) I do think applying the WoW to drugs taken to alleviate illness is a mistake. Medicine is different. I agree that the beer was a good treatment for the kidney stone. My brother in law’s doctor gave him the same advice. (He’s Presbyterian, though, so has no WoW issues.)

I sometimes take Excedrine Migraine, though the caffeine in it keeps me awake really late, then makes me feel horrible the next day. I am reluctant to take it because of those unpleasant side effects, but there are times when it’s the best option for a bad headache. Even though I interpret the WoW to mean no caffeine now, and I quit drinking regular diet coke for good, I still believe in using caffeine as a drug when appropriate. (It’s an exceedingly powerful one, as it turns out! I can’t believe most people in our culture give it routinely to kids for no medical reason at all!)

I do think applying the WoW to drugs taken to alleviate illness is a mistake.

]]> By: Don Clifton http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10430 Don Clifton Fri, 06 Apr 2007 22:56:43 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10430 Tom, That's more than we needed to know. But yes, alcohol can be absorbed thru the colon, depends on how long it remains there and most enemas cause the contents to be flushed out, not remain. My father used coffee semi-regularly. He had a swallowing condition and taking a little coffee allowed him to swallow his food. He held a temple recommend during this time as well. Tom,

That’s more than we needed to know. But yes, alcohol can be absorbed thru the colon, depends on how long it remains there and most enemas cause the contents to be flushed out, not remain.

My father used coffee semi-regularly. He had a swallowing condition and taking a little coffee allowed him to swallow his food. He held a temple recommend during this time as well.

]]> By: Tom http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10422 Tom Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:37:24 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10422 I don't know if he still does this, but just a few years back my Dad was regularly using beer in a special enema concoction. No joke. My dad's big on bowel cleanliness as a foundation for good health. Some of us kids had a good laugh wondering if the alcohol could be absorbed through the colon. And we had one of those historic eruptions of laughter when I said that I had been wondering why his farts had become slurred lately. I don’t know if he still does this, but just a few years back my Dad was regularly using beer in a special enema concoction. No joke. My dad’s big on bowel cleanliness as a foundation for good health.

Some of us kids had a good laugh wondering if the alcohol could be absorbed through the colon. And we had one of those historic eruptions of laughter when I said that I had been wondering why his farts had become slurred lately.

]]> By: Susan M http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10420 Susan M Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:21:51 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10420 I took some painkillers my third labor/delivery and all it did was make me loopy---didn't kill the pain. It sucked. I need to be able to concentrate to get through pain. Not feel like the room is spinning. I took some painkillers my third labor/delivery and all it did was make me loopy—didn’t kill the pain. It sucked. I need to be able to concentrate to get through pain. Not feel like the room is spinning.

]]> By: cj douglass http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10415 cj douglass Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:35:09 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10415 If I remember correctly, he was a young boy....so the WoW didn't exist obviously. And just to be clear by "baffled" I meant that it doesn't make sense to me or in other words, what was he thinking?!? If I remember correctly, he was a young boy….so the WoW didn’t exist obviously. And just to be clear by “baffled” I meant that it doesn’t make sense to me or in other words, what was he thinking?!?

]]> By: J. Stapley http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10412 J. Stapley Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:01:45 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10412 It is funny how we tell the refusal of liquor story during surgery, but we omit the drinking of liquor the night before martyrdom. I've heard a lot of speculation as to why Joseph refused a drink before that surgery, but WoW compliance is simply anachronistic. It is funny how we tell the refusal of liquor story during surgery, but we omit the drinking of liquor the night before martyrdom.

I’ve heard a lot of speculation as to why Joseph refused a drink before that surgery, but WoW compliance is simply anachronistic.

]]> By: Rusty http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10410 Rusty Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:29:22 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10410 <i>What does a six-pack of beer do to a kidney stone that a gallon of water doesn’t?</i> John, I think it does exactly what you say, though he might not have passed out he was probably drunk or numb or whatever alcohol would do to him to ease the pain. CJ, Are you suggesting that you take cough syrup when you have a cough? You covenant-breaker! What does a six-pack of beer do to a kidney stone that a gallon of water doesn’t?

John, I think it does exactly what you say, though he might not have passed out he was probably drunk or numb or whatever alcohol would do to him to ease the pain.

CJ,
Are you suggesting that you take cough syrup when you have a cough? You covenant-breaker!

]]> By: cj douglass http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10409 cj douglass Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:17:54 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/06/medical-beer/#comment-10409 The JS getting his leg cut off w/o any alcohol story always baffles me. I want to know how its different from my wife getting an epaderal during her pregnancy or any circumstance needing anastasia. The lines between substance abuse and medical treatment are so skewed in todays world that it comes down to personal revelation and choice. The WoW is a wonderful guideline but was intended to be a just that. Congrats to your friend for allowing some "modern medicine" relieve him of pain and money. The JS getting his leg cut off w/o any alcohol story always baffles me. I want to know how its different from my wife getting an epaderal during her pregnancy or any circumstance needing anastasia. The lines between substance abuse and medical treatment are so skewed in todays world that it comes down to personal revelation and choice. The WoW is a wonderful guideline but was intended to be a just that. Congrats to your friend for allowing some “modern medicine” relieve him of pain and money.

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