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		<title>By: a random John</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/13/a-church-not-made-with-hands/#comment-11863</link>
		<dc:creator>a random John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the post on BCC some time ago in which someone argued that Joseph Smith probably chopped down the Sacred Grove soon after the first vision in order to clear land for planting.  If he in fact did so it is interesting to compare the significance we give the place with his interactions with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the post on BCC some time ago in which someone argued that Joseph Smith probably chopped down the Sacred Grove soon after the first vision in order to clear land for planting.  If he in fact did so it is interesting to compare the significance we give the place with his interactions with it.</p>
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		<title>By: makakona</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/04/13/a-church-not-made-with-hands/#comment-11546</link>
		<dc:creator>makakona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooh, meems reminded me with her comment about the stars...  

our third anniversary was spent on kaua'i and we stayed at the far western shore, as far as the road goes.  our cottage overlooked the ocean and ni'ihau, a neighboring island.  the night of our anniversary, we put the kids to bed and sat on the lanai.  it was absolutely pitch black without any lights from neighboring buildings and there was no moon that night.  i think we could see every single star in existence and we saw about two dozen "falling stars."  it was phenomenal and we surely felt our huge-yet-insignificant place in the world.  it's been years since i've spent much time outdoors anywhere other than hawai'i, so i guess i associate lots with that place.  yellowstone and the john muir trails were pretty impactful, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooh, meems reminded me with her comment about the stars&#8230;  </p>
<p>our third anniversary was spent on kaua&#8217;i and we stayed at the far western shore, as far as the road goes.  our cottage overlooked the ocean and ni&#8217;ihau, a neighboring island.  the night of our anniversary, we put the kids to bed and sat on the lanai.  it was absolutely pitch black without any lights from neighboring buildings and there was no moon that night.  i think we could see every single star in existence and we saw about two dozen &#8220;falling stars.&#8221;  it was phenomenal and we surely felt our huge-yet-insignificant place in the world.  it&#8217;s been years since i&#8217;ve spent much time outdoors anywhere other than hawai&#8217;i, so i guess i associate lots with that place.  yellowstone and the john muir trails were pretty impactful, though.</p>
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		<title>By: meems</title>
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		<dc:creator>meems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muir Woods in Marin County, CA

The Northern California coastline on a cold and windy day

Likewise for Land's End in Cornwall, England

Rainforest in Ecuador.  I took a canoe into one of the smaller rivers that leads into the Amazon.  Just me, the canoe and the river.  It was an overpowering feeling - very primal. Very close to the Lord and his creations.

Big Sur and the Santa Cruz Mountains - especially at night when you can see the stars</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muir Woods in Marin County, CA</p>
<p>The Northern California coastline on a cold and windy day</p>
<p>Likewise for Land&#8217;s End in Cornwall, England</p>
<p>Rainforest in Ecuador.  I took a canoe into one of the smaller rivers that leads into the Amazon.  Just me, the canoe and the river.  It was an overpowering feeling - very primal. Very close to the Lord and his creations.</p>
<p>Big Sur and the Santa Cruz Mountains - especially at night when you can see the stars</p>
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		<title>By: Susan M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 14:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When we lived in Seattle we used to drive to Vancouver a lot, through Blaine. It seemed like crazy things were always happening there. Once my husband and his friend saw a calf being born while waiting to get through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we lived in Seattle we used to drive to Vancouver a lot, through Blaine. It seemed like crazy things were always happening there. Once my husband and his friend saw a calf being born while waiting to get through.</p>
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		<title>By: Lamonte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan - Thanks for this thought provoking post and thanks for the great pictures.  I am often amazed at how much I am overwhelmed by the beauty of nature and yet I'm definitely not an outdoorsman.  My wife's brothers are all Eagle Scouts and so I am required to spend at least two nights a year sleeping on the ground somewhere in the outdoors in order to remain in good standing.  But despite my disdain for camping I am in awe of Mother Nature.  

While I could point to many locations that have given me reverence for nature, since many have spoken about the Northwest U.S. and Southwestern Canada I should mention a recent experience.  Although I grew up in southern Idaho and attended school in Northern Idaho (in the 70's) it was not until this past January that I made my first trip to Seattle.  I'm involved in the construction of the new Port of Entry at Blaine/Peace Arch.  We flew into Seattle on January 12 and it snowed that night.  We got up early for the drive to Blaine, anticipating bad roads.  But the roads were fine and we traveled north at a steady pace.  As the sun rose up over the mountains to the east and revealed the natural surroundings I was blown away by how beautiful it was.  When we arrived at the existing Border Station in Blaine the sun was up and the surrounding area was covered in fresh snow.  The pine covered islands off the coast where the Border Station exists was stunningly beautiful.  I asked the Border Agents how they could possibly concentrate on their jobs while surrounded by such beauty.  The environment around us is centainly evidence of God's skilled hands.

I wish I had taken pictures to document what I saw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan - Thanks for this thought provoking post and thanks for the great pictures.  I am often amazed at how much I am overwhelmed by the beauty of nature and yet I&#8217;m definitely not an outdoorsman.  My wife&#8217;s brothers are all Eagle Scouts and so I am required to spend at least two nights a year sleeping on the ground somewhere in the outdoors in order to remain in good standing.  But despite my disdain for camping I am in awe of Mother Nature.  </p>
<p>While I could point to many locations that have given me reverence for nature, since many have spoken about the Northwest U.S. and Southwestern Canada I should mention a recent experience.  Although I grew up in southern Idaho and attended school in Northern Idaho (in the 70&#8217;s) it was not until this past January that I made my first trip to Seattle.  I&#8217;m involved in the construction of the new Port of Entry at Blaine/Peace Arch.  We flew into Seattle on January 12 and it snowed that night.  We got up early for the drive to Blaine, anticipating bad roads.  But the roads were fine and we traveled north at a steady pace.  As the sun rose up over the mountains to the east and revealed the natural surroundings I was blown away by how beautiful it was.  When we arrived at the existing Border Station in Blaine the sun was up and the surrounding area was covered in fresh snow.  The pine covered islands off the coast where the Border Station exists was stunningly beautiful.  I asked the Border Agents how they could possibly concentrate on their jobs while surrounded by such beauty.  The environment around us is centainly evidence of God&#8217;s skilled hands.</p>
<p>I wish I had taken pictures to document what I saw.</p>
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		<title>By: makakona</title>
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		<dc:creator>makakona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- adam-ondi-ahman, corny as that may sound.  i was a very newly-wed and we hadn't seen another car for miles and miles.  the morning was crisp and cool and there was a phenomenal wind that waxed and waned and felt like god.  it was a nice high point so early in our marriage.  
- kalauapapa, moloka'i
- ford island, o'ahu, where i had the distinct privilege of living.  i felt a serene calmness each time i drove the admiral clarey bridge to go back home.  
- los angeles temple.  we were recently advised by our former rsp to take an alternate route so as to avoid the city and invite the spirit, but i've always felt so wonderfully set apart from the world when i stand in front of the temple and see the chaos down below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- adam-ondi-ahman, corny as that may sound.  i was a very newly-wed and we hadn&#8217;t seen another car for miles and miles.  the morning was crisp and cool and there was a phenomenal wind that waxed and waned and felt like god.  it was a nice high point so early in our marriage.<br />
- kalauapapa, moloka&#8217;i<br />
- ford island, o&#8217;ahu, where i had the distinct privilege of living.  i felt a serene calmness each time i drove the admiral clarey bridge to go back home.<br />
- los angeles temple.  we were recently advised by our former rsp to take an alternate route so as to avoid the city and invite the spirit, but i&#8217;ve always felt so wonderfully set apart from the world when i stand in front of the temple and see the chaos down below.</p>
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		<title>By: ed42</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 04:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tops of the mountains.  One of my favorite things to do is jeep up as far as possible, climb/hike the rest of the way and sit and ponder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tops of the mountains.  One of my favorite things to do is jeep up as far as possible, climb/hike the rest of the way and sit and ponder.</p>
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		<title>By: cj douglass</title>
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		<dc:creator>cj douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Shenandoah mountains of Virginia, The red rocks of Southern Utah, Zions National Park is an inspiring place, The Gulf Coast, The Grand Tetons, The Unintah Mountains.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Shenandoah mountains of Virginia, The red rocks of Southern Utah, Zions National Park is an inspiring place, The Gulf Coast, The Grand Tetons, The Unintah Mountains&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Don Clifton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until they started building houses around us, I like to sit on my rock pile in the middle of my orchard with the apple, peach and pear blossums all around...it used to be peaceful and lovely.  And I didn't have to go very far to meditate.  

Fortunately now we have a temple close by instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until they started building houses around us, I like to sit on my rock pile in the middle of my orchard with the apple, peach and pear blossums all around&#8230;it used to be peaceful and lovely.  And I didn&#8217;t have to go very far to meditate.  </p>
<p>Fortunately now we have a temple close by instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vancouver island is a beautiful place. It's across the Strait from Sequim and you can see it from the Dungeness Spit.

My husband used to surf at Neah Bay and other spots along the WA coast. Have to be hardcore for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vancouver island is a beautiful place. It&#8217;s across the Strait from Sequim and you can see it from the Dungeness Spit.</p>
<p>My husband used to surf at Neah Bay and other spots along the WA coast. Have to be hardcore for that.</p>
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