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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13734</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 02:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem Don is that our generation has so much potential, so much freedom, so much opportunity to chart any course we wish, and so little old-fashioned authoritarian guidance, that as a group, we are darn-near in a state of existential paralysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem Don is that our generation has so much potential, so much freedom, so much opportunity to chart any course we wish, and so little old-fashioned authoritarian guidance, that as a group, we are darn-near in a state of existential paralysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13711</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 20:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl,  I hadn't thought of all the "things" we have now to make us lazier, but you're right they do.  I remember doing dishes every night, working in the garden, picking rasberries, fruit and vegetables, collecting eggs (200 chickens) cleaning the chicken coop of poop, picking wild blackberries for extra spending money, helping to clean the house, my room, the bathroom and then I got to "watch" my younger sibblings too!  A whole different world in more ways than one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl,  I hadn&#8217;t thought of all the &#8220;things&#8221; we have now to make us lazier, but you&#8217;re right they do.  I remember doing dishes every night, working in the garden, picking rasberries, fruit and vegetables, collecting eggs (200 chickens) cleaning the chicken coop of poop, picking wild blackberries for extra spending money, helping to clean the house, my room, the bathroom and then I got to &#8220;watch&#8221; my younger sibblings too!  A whole different world in more ways than one!</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13697</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 17:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Don. It's hard to teach kids to work if their parents weren't taught to work and so forth. It's a vicious cycle. 

I was thinking more about this issue and had this thought, too: For sure, technology has created this lack of work. If you factor in email, cell phones, computers, blogging, wikipedia, google, GPS, dishwashers, washing machines/dryers, roomba vaccuums, TV, shower cleaner sprays, paper plates, fake grass, local grocery stores, frozen dinners, fast food, etc. and so forth, then one can see how easy it is to become lazy. 

So, how do we bridge the gap between convenience and working?

It's hard. I'm still trying to figure it out --but President Hinckley did a great job talking about it in his "Standing for Something" book. Maybe I should go re-read it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Don. It&#8217;s hard to teach kids to work if their parents weren&#8217;t taught to work and so forth. It&#8217;s a vicious cycle. </p>
<p>I was thinking more about this issue and had this thought, too: For sure, technology has created this lack of work. If you factor in email, cell phones, computers, blogging, wikipedia, google, GPS, dishwashers, washing machines/dryers, roomba vaccuums, TV, shower cleaner sprays, paper plates, fake grass, local grocery stores, frozen dinners, fast food, etc. and so forth, then one can see how easy it is to become lazy. </p>
<p>So, how do we bridge the gap between convenience and working?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard. I&#8217;m still trying to figure it out &#8211;but President Hinckley did a great job talking about it in his &#8220;Standing for Something&#8221; book. Maybe I should go re-read it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13694</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 17:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl,  I think you've hit the nail on the head!!  My wife and I were talking about this and find part of the problem is the parents who have "taught" this generation.  The kids were not disaplined...don't spank, don't yell, don't do anything that might hurt their self-esteem.  Don't put them in something where they might loose, or their egos might get damaged.  They were given everything, worked for nothing at home and now they expect the world to do the same for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl,  I think you&#8217;ve hit the nail on the head!!  My wife and I were talking about this and find part of the problem is the parents who have &#8220;taught&#8221; this generation.  The kids were not disaplined&#8230;don&#8217;t spank, don&#8217;t yell, don&#8217;t do anything that might hurt their self-esteem.  Don&#8217;t put them in something where they might loose, or their egos might get damaged.  They were given everything, worked for nothing at home and now they expect the world to do the same for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13629</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 00:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Don, her behavior (quitting before she could get fired) is so predictable and immature. I'm sorry you went through that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Don, her behavior (quitting before she could get fired) is so predictable and immature. I&#8217;m sorry you went through that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13628</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 00:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this post very interesting. Many things have been said and written about the Generation Y mentality --heck, even the Generation X mentality --of work, or basically, the lack thereof. 

This may not relate completely, but bear with me. When I was a teenager, I babysat. A lot. My mother was also a babysitter when she was young, and so I learned the "tricks of the trade" mostly from her; she was quick to point out that if I left the house and the children "cleaner than I found it/them" I would be well paid and never lack for a job. She emphasized being focused on the job at hand, and even if I was bored/tired/sad about the kids I was watching or dishes I was washing, the job was more important. I was being given a responsibility and I should live up to it. So, I did. I had great success. I never lacked for a job and I got paid well (in teenage terms :) ). 

Fast forward to now. Utah, Idaho, California (I lived in them all) and it doesn't matter --I have the &lt;em&gt;hardest&lt;/em&gt; time finding someone who works like I did just 12 years ago. Not only has the cost of a babysitter gone up (which, of course, was expected), but finding a girl who will clean up after herself, let alone follow my instructions for bedtime is nearly impossible. 

Now, why? Why is it hard to find hard working youth, even amongst church members? 

This post makes me think about how hard work is so "passe" to the rest of the world. People are looking for instant gratification, instant praise, instant joyful careers and then quick, young retirement. 

Of course, this isn't limited to the world, since I've seen this among LDS people, but it always make me wonder what is going on. How can I teach my children to work hard and do it for more than selfish reasons if everywhere they turn they are bombarded with this "me" mentality?

I apologize for going off, but I've just been thinking about this lately (as I ignore the laundry and dishes in favor of blogging, while I wonder why my kids aren't cleaning their rooms and instead watch their mother sit at the computer... ;) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this post very interesting. Many things have been said and written about the Generation Y mentality &#8211;heck, even the Generation X mentality &#8211;of work, or basically, the lack thereof. </p>
<p>This may not relate completely, but bear with me. When I was a teenager, I babysat. A lot. My mother was also a babysitter when she was young, and so I learned the &#8220;tricks of the trade&#8221; mostly from her; she was quick to point out that if I left the house and the children &#8220;cleaner than I found it/them&#8221; I would be well paid and never lack for a job. She emphasized being focused on the job at hand, and even if I was bored/tired/sad about the kids I was watching or dishes I was washing, the job was more important. I was being given a responsibility and I should live up to it. So, I did. I had great success. I never lacked for a job and I got paid well (in teenage terms <img src='http://www.nine-moons.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ). </p>
<p>Fast forward to now. Utah, Idaho, California (I lived in them all) and it doesn&#8217;t matter &#8211;I have the <em>hardest</em> time finding someone who works like I did just 12 years ago. Not only has the cost of a babysitter gone up (which, of course, was expected), but finding a girl who will clean up after herself, let alone follow my instructions for bedtime is nearly impossible. </p>
<p>Now, why? Why is it hard to find hard working youth, even amongst church members? </p>
<p>This post makes me think about how hard work is so &#8220;passe&#8221; to the rest of the world. People are looking for instant gratification, instant praise, instant joyful careers and then quick, young retirement. </p>
<p>Of course, this isn&#8217;t limited to the world, since I&#8217;ve seen this among LDS people, but it always make me wonder what is going on. How can I teach my children to work hard and do it for more than selfish reasons if everywhere they turn they are bombarded with this &#8220;me&#8221; mentality?</p>
<p>I apologize for going off, but I&#8217;ve just been thinking about this lately (as I ignore the laundry and dishes in favor of blogging, while I wonder why my kids aren&#8217;t cleaning their rooms and instead watch their mother sit at the computer&#8230; <img src='http://www.nine-moons.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: MAC</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13616</link>
		<dc:creator>MAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 21:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a similar experience, where an employee, two levels below me, turned the diatribe into my boss (who thought it was hysterical) with his resignation.

I got a similar generation Y feel from it (even though this guy was actually older than me).  

I had hired him in spite of a iffy work history.  His approach to employment was not one that would ever lead him to success.  Because some of what he mentioned was directed at me personally I was tempted to ask for his personal email so that I could ask him how things were going for him in 10 or 15 years (too cruel).

I have about 25 permanent reports along with a rolling group of 100+ new university graduate hires that I get for a 2 to 3 month each.  I see situations similar to this several times a year.  My experience is that unless they change their attitude about their employer/employee relationship, they will be chronic job hoppers.  For some this is not an obstacle to personal success but for most it will be a hard row to hoe.

I think that alot of the "what color is your parachute" and "you have to love your job" speeches these kids get do more damage than good.  I know that some people will land primo academic careers with 30 hour work weeks supervising graduate students while they count reef fish and receive housing and per diem, but for most "work" will not be emotionally fulfilling or mostly fun.  To not prepare kids for this is a big disservice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a similar experience, where an employee, two levels below me, turned the diatribe into my boss (who thought it was hysterical) with his resignation.</p>
<p>I got a similar generation Y feel from it (even though this guy was actually older than me).  </p>
<p>I had hired him in spite of a iffy work history.  His approach to employment was not one that would ever lead him to success.  Because some of what he mentioned was directed at me personally I was tempted to ask for his personal email so that I could ask him how things were going for him in 10 or 15 years (too cruel).</p>
<p>I have about 25 permanent reports along with a rolling group of 100+ new university graduate hires that I get for a 2 to 3 month each.  I see situations similar to this several times a year.  My experience is that unless they change their attitude about their employer/employee relationship, they will be chronic job hoppers.  For some this is not an obstacle to personal success but for most it will be a hard row to hoe.</p>
<p>I think that alot of the &#8220;what color is your parachute&#8221; and &#8220;you have to love your job&#8221; speeches these kids get do more damage than good.  I know that some people will land primo academic careers with 30 hour work weeks supervising graduate students while they count reef fish and receive housing and per diem, but for most &#8220;work&#8221; will not be emotionally fulfilling or mostly fun.  To not prepare kids for this is a big disservice.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13598</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 17:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl, she didn't give us the chance, she called on a Thursday morning and said she got another job and wouldn't be coming in for her shift in 2 hours "sorry".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl, she didn&#8217;t give us the chance, she called on a Thursday morning and said she got another job and wouldn&#8217;t be coming in for her shift in 2 hours &#8220;sorry&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rusch</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13476</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Rusch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 00:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reccomend this management training podcast.  It is only a few minute long but directly adresses how to deal with employee complaints.  Seriously, you have go to check this out :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_WPggs1cw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reccomend this management training podcast.  It is only a few minute long but directly adresses how to deal with employee complaints.  Seriously, you have go to check this out <img src='http://www.nine-moons.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_WPggs1cw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_WPggs1cw</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/05/15/employee-mentality/#comment-13449</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 21:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was she "let go"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was she &#8220;let go&#8221;?</p>
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