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		<title>By: Josh Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/06/26/lolz/#comment-17769</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, I think what the others are trying to say is that any peoples during war can be brutal and sadistic. Not just American conservatives but American liberals, etc. Let's not get partisan here.

Eric, if you think the miniseries is good you should really read the book. I think the miniseries is great in its own right but the book is rich in experiences too. I think Stephen Ambrose really got the voice of the American G.I. in "Band of Brothers."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, I think what the others are trying to say is that any peoples during war can be brutal and sadistic. Not just American conservatives but American liberals, etc. Let&#8217;s not get partisan here.</p>
<p>Eric, if you think the miniseries is good you should really read the book. I think the miniseries is great in its own right but the book is rich in experiences too. I think Stephen Ambrose really got the voice of the American G.I. in &#8220;Band of Brothers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: cj douglass</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/06/26/lolz/#comment-17552</link>
		<dc:creator>cj douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth,
Thanks for the post on the evils of Halo 2. I hope Rusty has learned a lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth,<br />
Thanks for the post on the evils of Halo 2. I hope Rusty has learned a lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: Mondo Cool</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/06/26/lolz/#comment-17541</link>
		<dc:creator>Mondo Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bret:

SATX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bret:</p>
<p>SATX</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/06/26/lolz/#comment-17524</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mondo Cool,

My brother and I had the same reaction you did and it was nice to hear most in the audience have the same reaction. (this was the opening show, too)

Where do you live?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mondo Cool,</p>
<p>My brother and I had the same reaction you did and it was nice to hear most in the audience have the same reaction. (this was the opening show, too)</p>
<p>Where do you live?</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/06/26/lolz/#comment-17523</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth,

Your pst is provocative, but I have always had a hard time with the association of fictional violence with real violence and behavior. Don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware of their correlation, especially with at-risk people. For me, however, they've never been associated.

I've spent countless hours playing violent video games, watching violent programming, and what not have you. To me, reality and fiction are very different, even when they appear exactly the same. Even if the fiction is a recreation of something that really happened, it still doesn't have the same effect on me as seeing the real thing.

A good example of this was when a friend of mine (who has spent even more time doing all those things, plus he hunts) and I were looking through pictures at ebaumsworld. We came upon one of a guy who'd decapitated himself  through a freak accident of jumping out a window onto an iron fence. We were repulsed! We'd seen who knows how many movie and video game decapitations, but even now recollecting the picture is disturbing to me to think of an actual human being losing their life in such a tragic way.

I've just always wondered since Columbine whether I'm the exception or these nuts who act on what they view are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth,</p>
<p>Your pst is provocative, but I have always had a hard time with the association of fictional violence with real violence and behavior. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m fully aware of their correlation, especially with at-risk people. For me, however, they&#8217;ve never been associated.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent countless hours playing violent video games, watching violent programming, and what not have you. To me, reality and fiction are very different, even when they appear exactly the same. Even if the fiction is a recreation of something that really happened, it still doesn&#8217;t have the same effect on me as seeing the real thing.</p>
<p>A good example of this was when a friend of mine (who has spent even more time doing all those things, plus he hunts) and I were looking through pictures at ebaumsworld. We came upon one of a guy who&#8217;d decapitated himself  through a freak accident of jumping out a window onto an iron fence. We were repulsed! We&#8217;d seen who knows how many movie and video game decapitations, but even now recollecting the picture is disturbing to me to think of an actual human being losing their life in such a tragic way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just always wondered since Columbine whether I&#8217;m the exception or these nuts who act on what they view are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mondo Cool</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/06/26/lolz/#comment-17508</link>
		<dc:creator>Mondo Cool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example, if I may, of the desensitizing of the upcoming generation: for a little brainless entertainment, I went to see Spiderman 3 on a Fri night - when the "non-driving" teens hang out at the movies.  There was a scene when Peter Parker, under the influence of Venom, slugged his former girlfriend.  Many in the audience cheered. 

I resolved to be more involved with my 16yo son.  

War is a horrible thing - but there _are_ some things worse. Diplomacy, IMO, is the mind (not arm) of flesh too often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example, if I may, of the desensitizing of the upcoming generation: for a little brainless entertainment, I went to see Spiderman 3 on a Fri night - when the &#8220;non-driving&#8221; teens hang out at the movies.  There was a scene when Peter Parker, under the influence of Venom, slugged his former girlfriend.  Many in the audience cheered. </p>
<p>I resolved to be more involved with my 16yo son.  </p>
<p>War is a horrible thing - but there _are_ some things worse. Diplomacy, IMO, is the mind (not arm) of flesh too often.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth,

My apologies for bringing her into this discussion here. It really was not my intent to make it into a hyper-charged partisan squabble. She had just made those comments, and I felt they were apropos to your point. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Unlike some, I never considered the book “Lord of the Flies” all that far-fetched.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't think the author thought it that far-fetched either. His point really is quite powerful.

Kurt,

You have got to chill dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth,</p>
<p>My apologies for bringing her into this discussion here. It really was not my intent to make it into a hyper-charged partisan squabble. She had just made those comments, and I felt they were apropos to your point. </p>
<blockquote><p>Unlike some, I never considered the book “Lord of the Flies” all that far-fetched.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the author thought it that far-fetched either. His point really is quite powerful.</p>
<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>You have got to chill dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the argument: "boys will be boys" has at least some validity.

But I think the child warriors of Liberia and Congo are instructive. There is something lurking in our children that can easily be exploited for monstrous aims. Unlike some, I never considered the book "Lord of the Flies" all that far-fetched.

I also agree with Lamonte that there is an undercurrent of brutality running through our youth culture that can easily break free and find manifestation in shocking ways. While these outbreaks tend to get a lot of media attention, the spiritual sickness continues un-addressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the argument: &#8220;boys will be boys&#8221; has at least some validity.</p>
<p>But I think the child warriors of Liberia and Congo are instructive. There is something lurking in our children that can easily be exploited for monstrous aims. Unlike some, I never considered the book &#8220;Lord of the Flies&#8221; all that far-fetched.</p>
<p>I also agree with Lamonte that there is an undercurrent of brutality running through our youth culture that can easily break free and find manifestation in shocking ways. While these outbreaks tend to get a lot of media attention, the spiritual sickness continues un-addressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan M</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/06/26/lolz/#comment-17499</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kids take things lightly. It's part of the joy of being a kid. 

Making insensitive, shocking remarks is what passes for humor on the internet. 

When done right it can be hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kids take things lightly. It&#8217;s part of the joy of being a kid. </p>
<p>Making insensitive, shocking remarks is what passes for humor on the internet. </p>
<p>When done right it can be hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Lamonte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 15:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue - I'm sure you're right about that.  Maybe it is because of all the technological media available to us that, it seems to me, we (meaning society in general but teenage boys in particular) seem to be obssessed with violence - video games, movies, music - and the other things that seem to be popular (isn't reality television just our desire to see conflict between people) to the point where violence seems to be pervasive throughout our lives.  I am old enough to remember a time when it was not the case.  Yes, we had the occasional fights at school, we had football, we had movies but we didn't have the graphic violence depicted in almost everything we do the way it is today.  And whether it is a time honored tradition for teenage boys - and others - to glorify war and violence, isn't it time to change that?  I think that is what Seth was trying to say. Excuse me Seth if I put words in your mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue - I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right about that.  Maybe it is because of all the technological media available to us that, it seems to me, we (meaning society in general but teenage boys in particular) seem to be obssessed with violence - video games, movies, music - and the other things that seem to be popular (isn&#8217;t reality television just our desire to see conflict between people) to the point where violence seems to be pervasive throughout our lives.  I am old enough to remember a time when it was not the case.  Yes, we had the occasional fights at school, we had football, we had movies but we didn&#8217;t have the graphic violence depicted in almost everything we do the way it is today.  And whether it is a time honored tradition for teenage boys - and others - to glorify war and violence, isn&#8217;t it time to change that?  I think that is what Seth was trying to say. Excuse me Seth if I put words in your mouth.</p>
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