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		<title>By: lds fact finder</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19919</link>
		<dc:creator>lds fact finder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't seen the movie in a long time, but as far as the job of being a parent, I hope it never ends. My kids are still quite young and although I know they will grow to need me less, I hope they will feel that they can always count on me no matter how old they get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the movie in a long time, but as far as the job of being a parent, I hope it never ends. My kids are still quite young and although I know they will grow to need me less, I hope they will feel that they can always count on me no matter how old they get.</p>
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		<title>By: TStevens</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19829</link>
		<dc:creator>TStevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am always telling my wife how stressed I am while driving, but alas she just says too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am always telling my wife how stressed I am while driving, but alas she just says too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Parenthood &#171; Just Johnna</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19443</link>
		<dc:creator>Parenthood &#171; Just Johnna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Filed under: Uncategorized &#8212; Johnna @ 6:52 pm   Over at Nine Moons they&#8217;re riffing off Parenthood, one of my all-time favorite movies. &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Filed under: Uncategorized &#8212; Johnna @ 6:52 pm   Over at Nine Moons they&#8217;re riffing off Parenthood, one of my all-time favorite movies. &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lamonte</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19279</link>
		<dc:creator>Lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 14:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - Thanks for sharing your story.  Your parents sound like wonderful people.  My own parents have a similar story of putting up with a lot from their own children even still today while they are in their 80's.  Of course I am their only perfect child! ;-)  From my own experience I know how hard it is not to help your kids through some bonehead decisions they might have made but I also agree that each child must learn to look after themselves and sometimes pushing them out the door is the only answer.  Let's pray that your nephew has finally learned his lesson.  As a child and as a parent I have learned that those decisions are the hardest part of being a parent.  And yet, when all is said and done, it is also the most rewarding part of being a parent.  I've been blessed that my sons have made good decisions in their lives even if they've made some bad ones at first.  God has been good to me and my family.  We have been blessed despite some hardships along the way.  I hope he is good to your family as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom - Thanks for sharing your story.  Your parents sound like wonderful people.  My own parents have a similar story of putting up with a lot from their own children even still today while they are in their 80&#8217;s.  Of course I am their only perfect child! <img src='http://www.nine-moons.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  From my own experience I know how hard it is not to help your kids through some bonehead decisions they might have made but I also agree that each child must learn to look after themselves and sometimes pushing them out the door is the only answer.  Let&#8217;s pray that your nephew has finally learned his lesson.  As a child and as a parent I have learned that those decisions are the hardest part of being a parent.  And yet, when all is said and done, it is also the most rewarding part of being a parent.  I&#8217;ve been blessed that my sons have made good decisions in their lives even if they&#8217;ve made some bad ones at first.  God has been good to me and my family.  We have been blessed despite some hardships along the way.  I hope he is good to your family as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19272</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents never had any money to help anyone out but their house was always open.  When I was a kid we had my sister's family of five living with us for a couple of years.  At that time there were still four of us kids living at home, so there was a total of 11 people in the house, which wasn't a very big house.  There was a lot of conflict and stress and it was hard on everyone.  Being a selfish kid, all I wanted was for them to leave.  And I'm sure my parents felt that the situation was less than ideal, but as far as I know they didn't put any pressure on them to leave.  They were willing to help out however they could.

Later on when I was a teenager we had my other sister and her three kids, one of whom was a truly troubled kid of 6-7.  I think he was angry and felt abandoned by their father or something, but he was a terror.  That situation sucked for everyone, but my sister needed help to get on her feet after her divorce and my parents helped the only way they could.

As much as I hated those very long stretches of sharing "my" house, I'm really glad that my parents were willing to help their kids out because 1) it helped my sisters, whom I love and 2) it was a great example of charity.

Probably the worst experience my parents had with people living with them just happened over the past few years.  My ex-brother-in-law called up and said that he had had enough of my nephew, who was a teenager into drugs and in trouble with the law.  My sister, his mother, was a truck driver and couldn't settle down in one place, so my mom and Parkinson's-stricken dad, who were finally empty nesters and getting a break from raising thirteen kids, took the kid in.  It didn't take long for him to make friends with the bad kids and get into drugs and in trouble.  He stole my parents car, for which they reported him, and had to do time in juvenile detention.  Then they let him stay with them again.  The last straw was when my mom discovered that he was trying to make meth in the basement.  That's when they finally kicked him out for good.

I had hope for the kid, and my parents did too.  It was amazing what they were willing to put up with in order to give him a chance.  But he was an idiot (and I really think he's suffered brain injury from drugs) and refused to take the opportunity to put his life on track.  I think you always wonder if you could do more.  cj douglass is probably a testament that you shouldn't give up too early.  But I don't know that you have to keep on supporting kids if by doing so you enable them in their screwing up.

From what I hear my nephew is actually holding a couple of jobs and may be doing alright.  Maybe being faced with sink or swim, kids are more likely to finally put their heads on straight.  Sometimes they sink, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents never had any money to help anyone out but their house was always open.  When I was a kid we had my sister&#8217;s family of five living with us for a couple of years.  At that time there were still four of us kids living at home, so there was a total of 11 people in the house, which wasn&#8217;t a very big house.  There was a lot of conflict and stress and it was hard on everyone.  Being a selfish kid, all I wanted was for them to leave.  And I&#8217;m sure my parents felt that the situation was less than ideal, but as far as I know they didn&#8217;t put any pressure on them to leave.  They were willing to help out however they could.</p>
<p>Later on when I was a teenager we had my other sister and her three kids, one of whom was a truly troubled kid of 6-7.  I think he was angry and felt abandoned by their father or something, but he was a terror.  That situation sucked for everyone, but my sister needed help to get on her feet after her divorce and my parents helped the only way they could.</p>
<p>As much as I hated those very long stretches of sharing &#8220;my&#8221; house, I&#8217;m really glad that my parents were willing to help their kids out because 1) it helped my sisters, whom I love and 2) it was a great example of charity.</p>
<p>Probably the worst experience my parents had with people living with them just happened over the past few years.  My ex-brother-in-law called up and said that he had had enough of my nephew, who was a teenager into drugs and in trouble with the law.  My sister, his mother, was a truck driver and couldn&#8217;t settle down in one place, so my mom and Parkinson&#8217;s-stricken dad, who were finally empty nesters and getting a break from raising thirteen kids, took the kid in.  It didn&#8217;t take long for him to make friends with the bad kids and get into drugs and in trouble.  He stole my parents car, for which they reported him, and had to do time in juvenile detention.  Then they let him stay with them again.  The last straw was when my mom discovered that he was trying to make meth in the basement.  That&#8217;s when they finally kicked him out for good.</p>
<p>I had hope for the kid, and my parents did too.  It was amazing what they were willing to put up with in order to give him a chance.  But he was an idiot (and I really think he&#8217;s suffered brain injury from drugs) and refused to take the opportunity to put his life on track.  I think you always wonder if you could do more.  cj douglass is probably a testament that you shouldn&#8217;t give up too early.  But I don&#8217;t know that you have to keep on supporting kids if by doing so you enable them in their screwing up.</p>
<p>From what I hear my nephew is actually holding a couple of jobs and may be doing alright.  Maybe being faced with sink or swim, kids are more likely to finally put their heads on straight.  Sometimes they sink, though.</p>
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		<title>By: cj douglass</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19224</link>
		<dc:creator>cj douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>makakona,
you bring up a great point. And my parents were really only going to tolerate my nonsense for so long. They definiely weren't push overs - just looking and waiting for signs that I would get my act together. Some kids need some tough love to wake up. I guess it depends on the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>makakona,<br />
you bring up a great point. And my parents were really only going to tolerate my nonsense for so long. They definiely weren&#8217;t push overs - just looking and waiting for signs that I would get my act together. Some kids need some tough love to wake up. I guess it depends on the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: makakona</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19223</link>
		<dc:creator>makakona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after catching snippets of it on tv over the years, i finally netflixed "parenthood" and watched it from beginning to end a few weeks ago.  the scene where robards talks to martin about hulce also really struck me.  

i moved out when i was 16.  i had graduated from high school, was emancipated from my parents, and was on my own.  i harbor some resentment over all of it.  on the flip side, my husband has some family members who have made horrific choices and are constantly welcomed back home despite their actions.  as an example, one refuses to keep a job, uses drugs, abuses alcohol, is foul-mouthed and rude and yet he is fully supported, taken on vacations, and so on.  i can't wrap my head around it.  my husband says he understands, that keeping your child close to you, regardless of age or circumstance, is sometimes the only way you can protect them.  

interestingly, my husband feels that you're on your own once you're 18 and graduated whereas i think you can stay as long as is feasible so long as you are being a productive citizen and a good kid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after catching snippets of it on tv over the years, i finally netflixed &#8220;parenthood&#8221; and watched it from beginning to end a few weeks ago.  the scene where robards talks to martin about hulce also really struck me.  </p>
<p>i moved out when i was 16.  i had graduated from high school, was emancipated from my parents, and was on my own.  i harbor some resentment over all of it.  on the flip side, my husband has some family members who have made horrific choices and are constantly welcomed back home despite their actions.  as an example, one refuses to keep a job, uses drugs, abuses alcohol, is foul-mouthed and rude and yet he is fully supported, taken on vacations, and so on.  i can&#8217;t wrap my head around it.  my husband says he understands, that keeping your child close to you, regardless of age or circumstance, is sometimes the only way you can protect them.  </p>
<p>interestingly, my husband feels that you&#8217;re on your own once you&#8217;re 18 and graduated whereas i think you can stay as long as is feasible so long as you are being a productive citizen and a good kid.</p>
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		<title>By: cj dougalss</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19215</link>
		<dc:creator>cj dougalss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I was just using the D&#38;C terminology. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;D&#38;C 123: 13
Therefore, that we should waste and wear out our lives in bringing to light all the bhidden things of darkness, wherein we know them; and they are truly manifest from heaven— &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It does sound a little off but I love the scripture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I was just using the D&amp;C terminology. </p>
<blockquote><p>D&amp;C 123: 13<br />
Therefore, that we should waste and wear out our lives in bringing to light all the bhidden things of darkness, wherein we know them; and they are truly manifest from heaven— </p></blockquote>
<p>It does sound a little off but I love the scripture.</p>
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		<title>By: Lamonte</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19213</link>
		<dc:creator>Lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJ - It never is a waste when you wear out your life in loving your kids.  I'm sure you know that by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ - It never is a waste when you wear out your life in loving your kids.  I&#8217;m sure you know that by now.</p>
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		<title>By: cj dougalss</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/07/16/parenthood/#comment-19207</link>
		<dc:creator>cj dougalss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a friend in HS who was pretty rebelious and disrespectful to his parents and the rules of thier house. Around the time of HS graduation(of which he was a drop out) his parents dropped a bomb on him - "We're moving to Florida, and you're not welcome." Looking back, his parents might have been justified - I don't know every detail - but if me and my friend would have swapped parents back then I might be the one digging ditches(literally)with a bad case of tuberculosis from chronic drug use instead of on the verge of graduating from a great school to work in a profession that I love with a wonderful wife and kids ta boot. Because we were on the same path. The difference was in our parents. I Thank God for parents who waste and wear out their lives in the service of their children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a friend in HS who was pretty rebelious and disrespectful to his parents and the rules of thier house. Around the time of HS graduation(of which he was a drop out) his parents dropped a bomb on him - &#8220;We&#8217;re moving to Florida, and you&#8217;re not welcome.&#8221; Looking back, his parents might have been justified - I don&#8217;t know every detail - but if me and my friend would have swapped parents back then I might be the one digging ditches(literally)with a bad case of tuberculosis from chronic drug use instead of on the verge of graduating from a great school to work in a profession that I love with a wonderful wife and kids ta boot. Because we were on the same path. The difference was in our parents. I Thank God for parents who waste and wear out their lives in the service of their children.</p>
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