So much for eternal suffering. *thumbs nose at Satan*.]]>
With out the refining process of remorse, anguish, etc. and eventually peace than repentance wouldn’t be as meaningful.]]>
But to me the payment part is the least important. If payment for sin was so important then I’d be ok if I paid for them myself, and that doesn’t work because there is no change and no forgiveness if I do the paying.
You say “…other than payment for sins and loosing the bands of death what is there?” To me there is forgiveness and personal change that comes thru repentence…and to me that’s what’s most important.]]>
In fact, it seems to me that the forgiveness you describe will be found eventually for those that pay for their own sins in (temporary) hell. The problem for those folks is that they may or may not have repented (using their agency) and changed the character traits in them that caused them to commit the sins in the first place.
Anyway, as I posted recently in my parallel set of posts on this subject, the atonement seems to exclusively entail payment for sins and freedom from death (Jacob’s two-headed monster) The atonement overcomes sins by paying for them for us upon our repentance. Forgiveness only comes from God following that process. Therefore, to say that payment for sins is not your favorite part of the atonement makes no sense — other than payment for sins and loosing the bands of death what is there?]]>