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	<title>Comments on: Love Wins</title>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 15:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I click through the evangelical channels on TV and I sort of drink up the ones who teach hope.  As I&#039;ve said many many times, I wish we had more &quot;evangelical&quot; experiences in our meetings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I click through the evangelical channels on TV and I sort of drink up the ones who teach hope.  As I&#8217;ve said many many times, I wish we had more &#8220;evangelical&#8221; experiences in our meetings.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Alger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Alger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2011 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jesus Wants the Rose!&quot;  That was so powerful to me.  I had a similar experience as I read and digested Believing Christ.  I recognized that I was not Celestial material.  When that story about the man who said the same thing to his bishop, I loved the bishop&#039;s response.  &quot;Well none of us are celestial material, welcome to the club&quot;  I feel there is something in the Mormon church (perhaps elsewhere too) that somehow we think we have to be as perfect as we can then, we can go to heaven.

There is a balance of truth, I don&#039;t know how to make sure it is communicated to everyone except by the power of the Holy Ghost.  Must we do all we can do? Yes, but don&#039;t discourage yourselves.  Start with doing one thing or stop doing something you shouldn&#039;t be doing.  Pray with all the energy of your heart that you might be filled with the love of God.  That you might have a change of heart or are born again.  That you have no more disposition to do evil.

Make covenants with God through his authorized servants.  Enjoy the blessings that come from publicly and permanently declaring your devotion to Him.  Enter a marriage like relationship with God.  Enjoy the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Then the joy comes.  God will condemn no one that is honest of heart.  Those that are honest of heart will put their effort into becoming the sons (and daughters) of Christ.  Yet it is His grace that carries us from initial step to every scraped knee to the ultimate day of glory when we receive our reward for qualifying to the highest blessings of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jesus Wants the Rose!&#8221;  That was so powerful to me.  I had a similar experience as I read and digested Believing Christ.  I recognized that I was not Celestial material.  When that story about the man who said the same thing to his bishop, I loved the bishop&#8217;s response.  &#8220;Well none of us are celestial material, welcome to the club&#8221;  I feel there is something in the Mormon church (perhaps elsewhere too) that somehow we think we have to be as perfect as we can then, we can go to heaven.</p>
<p>There is a balance of truth, I don&#8217;t know how to make sure it is communicated to everyone except by the power of the Holy Ghost.  Must we do all we can do? Yes, but don&#8217;t discourage yourselves.  Start with doing one thing or stop doing something you shouldn&#8217;t be doing.  Pray with all the energy of your heart that you might be filled with the love of God.  That you might have a change of heart or are born again.  That you have no more disposition to do evil.</p>
<p>Make covenants with God through his authorized servants.  Enjoy the blessings that come from publicly and permanently declaring your devotion to Him.  Enter a marriage like relationship with God.  Enjoy the gift of the Holy Ghost.</p>
<p>Then the joy comes.  God will condemn no one that is honest of heart.  Those that are honest of heart will put their effort into becoming the sons (and daughters) of Christ.  Yet it is His grace that carries us from initial step to every scraped knee to the ultimate day of glory when we receive our reward for qualifying to the highest blessings of God.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Horrible</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1393&#038;cpage=1#comment-95416</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Horrible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting controversy, indeed.

I am curious to see how his take on &quot;damnation&quot; matches with our theology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting controversy, indeed.</p>
<p>I am curious to see how his take on &#8220;damnation&#8221; matches with our theology.</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1393&#038;cpage=1#comment-95415</link>
		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 01:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been listening to evangelicals like Matt Chandler for a while and I really like a lot of what he says.  We can learn from these people.  Chandler&#039;s video &quot;Jesus Wants the Rose&quot; should be required viewing for instructors of youth in our church or any other.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zR3h2UsR4

I like Rob Bell&#039;s take because he asks questions that need to be asked.  When he describes seeing an artistic rendering of Ghandi on which someone had placed a note saying &quot;Reality check: he&#039;s in hell,&quot; his reaction is what most people feel.  When he says that as a Christian, you don&#039;t have to believe that all Buddists are going to hell, he gives relief to a lot of people.  As Mormons, we certainly find ourselves more attuned to his brand of Christianity and it&#039;s nice to see people arriving at these same conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been listening to evangelicals like Matt Chandler for a while and I really like a lot of what he says.  We can learn from these people.  Chandler&#8217;s video &#8220;Jesus Wants the Rose&#8221; should be required viewing for instructors of youth in our church or any other.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zR3h2UsR4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zR3h2UsR4</a></p>
<p>I like Rob Bell&#8217;s take because he asks questions that need to be asked.  When he describes seeing an artistic rendering of Ghandi on which someone had placed a note saying &#8220;Reality check: he&#8217;s in hell,&#8221; his reaction is what most people feel.  When he says that as a Christian, you don&#8217;t have to believe that all Buddists are going to hell, he gives relief to a lot of people.  As Mormons, we certainly find ourselves more attuned to his brand of Christianity and it&#8217;s nice to see people arriving at these same conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: marv thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>marv thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for anyone interested at amazon
Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived by Rob Bell (Hardcover - Mar 15, 2011)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for anyone interested at amazon<br />
Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived by Rob Bell (Hardcover &#8211; Mar 15, 2011)<br />
Buy new: $22.99 $11.98<br />
31 new from $11.36 6 used from $12.65<br />
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		<title>By: Mark Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks CJ.  I&#039;ve been meaning to read this book, so I&#039;ll look forward to your posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks CJ.  I&#8217;ve been meaning to read this book, so I&#8217;ll look forward to your posts.</p>
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		<title>By: marv thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>marv thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth comes in many packages,but can eventually be traced back to our heavenly father.WAYNE W. DYER has many thoughts that I agree with and my bishop of the past would call him a dry Mormon.Thing is he is not a Christian,but I don&#039;t think that nullifies his teaching on love for fellow man and self.God speaks to all his children ,just differently according to where they are spiritually.Hartman Rector said we should read from all good books from which truth is found.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth comes in many packages,but can eventually be traced back to our heavenly father.WAYNE W. DYER has many thoughts that I agree with and my bishop of the past would call him a dry Mormon.Thing is he is not a Christian,but I don&#8217;t think that nullifies his teaching on love for fellow man and self.God speaks to all his children ,just differently according to where they are spiritually.Hartman Rector said we should read from all good books from which truth is found.</p>
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