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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1592&#038;cpage=2#comment-121932</link>
		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Romney is the most credible candidate of the current GOP contenders.  And it&#039;s not even close.  

That&#039;s not to say that I agree with everything he says, or that he&#039;s my first choice to be the next president, but given the candidates we have now and the current chances for success of each of them, we really only have two credible choices on the republican side: Romney or Perry.  

Cain is not credible.  His 999 plan is almost comical.  Gingrich doesn&#039;t have enough support or money because he has some negatives, Santorum is too extreme, Bachmann is a joke (I sometimes can&#039;t even believe the things she says are actually coming out of her mouth), Paul is unelectable because he&#039;s too uncompromising, Huntsman is a good candidate, but doesn&#039;t have the support at this point to break into the top tier.  

It&#039;s possible that things could change in the next few months, but it&#039;s not likely.  Given the choice between Perry and Romney, I&#039;ll take Romney any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Romney is the most credible candidate of the current GOP contenders.  And it&#8217;s not even close.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that I agree with everything he says, or that he&#8217;s my first choice to be the next president, but given the candidates we have now and the current chances for success of each of them, we really only have two credible choices on the republican side: Romney or Perry.  </p>
<p>Cain is not credible.  His 999 plan is almost comical.  Gingrich doesn&#8217;t have enough support or money because he has some negatives, Santorum is too extreme, Bachmann is a joke (I sometimes can&#8217;t even believe the things she says are actually coming out of her mouth), Paul is unelectable because he&#8217;s too uncompromising, Huntsman is a good candidate, but doesn&#8217;t have the support at this point to break into the top tier.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that things could change in the next few months, but it&#8217;s not likely.  Given the choice between Perry and Romney, I&#8217;ll take Romney any day.</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 15:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, who do you support for the Republican presidential candidate?  Can&#039;t remember your political affiliation, but say you were Republican.  Who&#039;s the best?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, who do you support for the Republican presidential candidate?  Can&#8217;t remember your political affiliation, but say you were Republican.  Who&#8217;s the best?</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1592&#038;cpage=2#comment-121887</link>
		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice rant.  

Look, it&#039;s not just me, many analysts agree that the tea partiers in congress were directly responsible for the acrimony and gridlock that led to the credit downgrade.  You may not want to lay it all on them but they are the only new factor in the equation, everything else existed before and no downgrade ever happened before.  

But you go right ahead and blame... let&#039;s see, who is it exactly you blame?  Oh, yeah, everyone!  That makes a lot of sense.

The fact is, it had never happened before, then the tea partiers get into congress and create a situation where a crucial financial vote is held hostage to their extremist demands.  That&#039;s why the credit downgrade happened.  But don&#039;t believe me, read what Standard and Poors said.  You know, the agency that issued the downgrade?  You think they might have some idea why they did it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice rant.  </p>
<p>Look, it&#8217;s not just me, many analysts agree that the tea partiers in congress were directly responsible for the acrimony and gridlock that led to the credit downgrade.  You may not want to lay it all on them but they are the only new factor in the equation, everything else existed before and no downgrade ever happened before.  </p>
<p>But you go right ahead and blame&#8230; let&#8217;s see, who is it exactly you blame?  Oh, yeah, everyone!  That makes a lot of sense.</p>
<p>The fact is, it had never happened before, then the tea partiers get into congress and create a situation where a crucial financial vote is held hostage to their extremist demands.  That&#8217;s why the credit downgrade happened.  But don&#8217;t believe me, read what Standard and Poors said.  You know, the agency that issued the downgrade?  You think they might have some idea why they did it?</p>
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		<title>By: J Slaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Slaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 15:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To blame the down-grading of the U.S. credit rating on the Tea Party is absurd and down right ignorant. Our economy was down graded because of the economic policies during both the Bush and Obama administrations. Even Bush and Obama are not entirely to blame, the entire congress and all of the other political components of our government are equally to blame. I would even put a large part of the blame on our corporate and financial institutions. When someone pens something such as this on a small group with no backing, shows how irresponsible writing gets us nowhere. I disagree with a lot of what the Tea Party stands – But they are not the blame for our credit rating decline. Your whole article lost any true statement once I read that…The problem with republicans/conservative and democrats/liberals are your stupid labels and ideological thinking that prevents our country from continuing to grow as the beacon of freedom. I believe it was Jefferson who stated that if the U.S. were to ever be defeated it would be from destruction from within…A point that needs to be made is Bush and Obama has truly not been any different…look at what happen when the democrats had control of congress…NOTHING! Sad day for all of America who was expecting change from a party who promised but could not delivered. We’re are back to the same Bush politics and no one wants to be accountable only point fingers and blame the other party. I want change – I want our citizens to hold our government accountable, it’s a government of the people, by the people, for the people. They work for us guys, we DON’T work for them!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To blame the down-grading of the U.S. credit rating on the Tea Party is absurd and down right ignorant. Our economy was down graded because of the economic policies during both the Bush and Obama administrations. Even Bush and Obama are not entirely to blame, the entire congress and all of the other political components of our government are equally to blame. I would even put a large part of the blame on our corporate and financial institutions. When someone pens something such as this on a small group with no backing, shows how irresponsible writing gets us nowhere. I disagree with a lot of what the Tea Party stands – But they are not the blame for our credit rating decline. Your whole article lost any true statement once I read that…The problem with republicans/conservative and democrats/liberals are your stupid labels and ideological thinking that prevents our country from continuing to grow as the beacon of freedom. I believe it was Jefferson who stated that if the U.S. were to ever be defeated it would be from destruction from within…A point that needs to be made is Bush and Obama has truly not been any different…look at what happen when the democrats had control of congress…NOTHING! Sad day for all of America who was expecting change from a party who promised but could not delivered. We’re are back to the same Bush politics and no one wants to be accountable only point fingers and blame the other party. I want change – I want our citizens to hold our government accountable, it’s a government of the people, by the people, for the people. They work for us guys, we DON’T work for them!!!</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 00:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Must someone be a right-wing crackpot to have these beliefs? Do these opinions make one an anti-Mormon?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If you read the post and the comments you should know the answer to these questions: no and no.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What if the tea party is merely a strategy for splitting the Republican vote so that Obama can serve another four years?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Even if that&#039;s not the strategy, it&#039;s doing a great job of acheiving it anyway.

I don&#039;t think we need to be afraid to join things other than the Church.  Your local Rotary club or Chamber of Commerce is perfectly safe, for example.  But you might want to be leery of anything with the name Gadianton in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Must someone be a right-wing crackpot to have these beliefs? Do these opinions make one an anti-Mormon?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you read the post and the comments you should know the answer to these questions: no and no.</p>
<blockquote><p>What if the tea party is merely a strategy for splitting the Republican vote so that Obama can serve another four years?</p></blockquote>
<p>Even if that&#8217;s not the strategy, it&#8217;s doing a great job of acheiving it anyway.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we need to be afraid to join things other than the Church.  Your local Rotary club or Chamber of Commerce is perfectly safe, for example.  But you might want to be leery of anything with the name Gadianton in it.</p>
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		<title>By: John W. Redelfs</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1592&#038;cpage=2#comment-114824</link>
		<dc:creator>John W. Redelfs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 14:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I do not identify myself with the so-called tea party, I do share an opinion that many of them have: beyond a certain point, the growth of government power becomes a threat to freedom.  I also agree that both political parties have helped grow government power. Must someone be a right-wing crackpot to have these beliefs? Do these opinions make one an anti-Mormon?

And how can a movement that is not a party be named the Tea Party?  That doesn&#039;t make sense to me.  It suggests to my mind that someone is manipulating the language to influence my thinking.  What if the tea party is merely a strategy for splitting the Republican vote so that Obama can serve another four years?

What I do not know vastly outweighs what I do know.  My ignorance is almost complete.  Hence, I do not join factions and parties other than the Church. If I did, I would probably end up making a bigger fool of myself than I already have by joining something that is not what it seems to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do not identify myself with the so-called tea party, I do share an opinion that many of them have: beyond a certain point, the growth of government power becomes a threat to freedom.  I also agree that both political parties have helped grow government power. Must someone be a right-wing crackpot to have these beliefs? Do these opinions make one an anti-Mormon?</p>
<p>And how can a movement that is not a party be named the Tea Party?  That doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.  It suggests to my mind that someone is manipulating the language to influence my thinking.  What if the tea party is merely a strategy for splitting the Republican vote so that Obama can serve another four years?</p>
<p>What I do not know vastly outweighs what I do know.  My ignorance is almost complete.  Hence, I do not join factions and parties other than the Church. If I did, I would probably end up making a bigger fool of myself than I already have by joining something that is not what it seems to be.</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1592&#038;cpage=2#comment-103376</link>
		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html?_r=2&amp;nl=todaysheadlines&amp;emc=tha212&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This article &lt;/a&gt;is important and informative regarding the origins and makeup of the Tea Party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html?_r=2&amp;nl=todaysheadlines&amp;emc=tha212" rel="nofollow">This article </a>is important and informative regarding the origins and makeup of the Tea Party.</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I used the (admittedly inflammatory) term &quot;anti-American&quot; is that it seems to me that their principles and tactics are in direct opposition to those upon which the country was founded and that make it function well.  I know enough history to know that there has been a lot of very harsh political rhetoric throughout the history of this country, but I believe the TP&#039;s irrationality tops anything we&#039;ve seen in this country before.

What I mean is, we may have had ignorant political leaders at times, but they were ignorant by circumstance, they didn&#039;t embrace ignorance as an article of faith the way the Tea Partiers do.  You basically can&#039;t be a Tea Partier if you accept the scientific consensus on evolution and man-caused global warming.  And you also have to reject the vast majority of economists as well.  That&#039;s willful ignorance, and it has no place in our political leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I used the (admittedly inflammatory) term &#8220;anti-American&#8221; is that it seems to me that their principles and tactics are in direct opposition to those upon which the country was founded and that make it function well.  I know enough history to know that there has been a lot of very harsh political rhetoric throughout the history of this country, but I believe the TP&#8217;s irrationality tops anything we&#8217;ve seen in this country before.</p>
<p>What I mean is, we may have had ignorant political leaders at times, but they were ignorant by circumstance, they didn&#8217;t embrace ignorance as an article of faith the way the Tea Partiers do.  You basically can&#8217;t be a Tea Partier if you accept the scientific consensus on evolution and man-caused global warming.  And you also have to reject the vast majority of economists as well.  That&#8217;s willful ignorance, and it has no place in our political leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<dc:creator>annegb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think they&#039;re anti-American.  Heck, it&#039;s uniquely American to be loud and annoying.  That said, they annoy me.  I&#039;m kind of sick of them myself.  And it bothers me that the women--Sarah Palin and Bachman--are associated with them.  Because they come off strident and unyielding and a bit fanatical.  I&#039;d like to see a strong soft-spoken knowledgeable woman run.  Don&#039;t know who that would be, but not the yo-yos that are running now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re anti-American.  Heck, it&#8217;s uniquely American to be loud and annoying.  That said, they annoy me.  I&#8217;m kind of sick of them myself.  And it bothers me that the women&#8211;Sarah Palin and Bachman&#8211;are associated with them.  Because they come off strident and unyielding and a bit fanatical.  I&#8217;d like to see a strong soft-spoken knowledgeable woman run.  Don&#8217;t know who that would be, but not the yo-yos that are running now.</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 00:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romney is actually a pragmatist.  That&#039;s why he seems so uncomfortable among the true-believers during the primaries.  Romney is not a true-believer in the political sense.  He believes in doing what it takes to get the best result.  Which is probably exactly what we need in office right now.  Unfortunately, pragmatists rarely get elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney is actually a pragmatist.  That&#8217;s why he seems so uncomfortable among the true-believers during the primaries.  Romney is not a true-believer in the political sense.  He believes in doing what it takes to get the best result.  Which is probably exactly what we need in office right now.  Unfortunately, pragmatists rarely get elected.</p>
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