Comments on: Hope of Israel Islam http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623 Tue, 21 May 2013 21:34:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Michael Liberty http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-116541 Michael Liberty Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:12:45 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-116541 I suppose that what you experienced could be done with just about anything. I'm sure that, if I really wanted, I could take the lyrics of that exact hymn and replace the same words with Star Wars references and it would still make sense. I'm not trying make fun of what you are saying, but I am sure you realize that if you're looking for anything, anything at all, you'll probably find it. I suppose that what you experienced could be done with just about anything. I’m sure that, if I really wanted, I could take the lyrics of that exact hymn and replace the same words with Star Wars references and it would still make sense.

I’m not trying make fun of what you are saying, but I am sure you realize that if you’re looking for anything, anything at all, you’ll probably find it.

]]> By: Mark B. http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-113584 Mark B. Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:59:27 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-113584 Of course, the worst part of that awful song (not the one I wrote--the one in the hymn book) is that it takes a scriptural phrase (hope of Israel) and applies it not as the scriptures do--to Christ--but to the youth of Zion. See, e.g., Jer. 14:8 and 17:13 and Acts 28:20, where the phrase is as written in the song. And also, Joel 3:16 and Psalms 130:7 and 131:3. Of course, the worst part of that awful song (not the one I wrote–the one in the hymn book) is that it takes a scriptural phrase (hope of Israel) and applies it not as the scriptures do–to Christ–but to the youth of Zion.

See, e.g., Jer. 14:8 and 17:13 and Acts 28:20, where the phrase is as written in the song. And also, Joel 3:16 and Psalms 130:7 and 131:3.

]]> By: MCQ http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-112580 MCQ Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:32:38 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-112580 Needs work, Mark B. Needs work, Mark B.

]]> By: Mark B. http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-112470 Mark B. Tue, 20 Sep 2011 14:26:15 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-112470 Let's hear it for songs about self-mutilation! Uncomfortable though that subject might be, such a song would come a lot closer to the truth than a song that makes sin "the other" against which we are arrayed in battle. Strike for Zion, down with error, I confess, I am God's foe; Every day I pluck out an eyeball Over self I conquering go. I'll submit it to the music committee and see what they say. Let’s hear it for songs about self-mutilation!

Uncomfortable though that subject might be, such a song would come a lot closer to the truth than a song that makes sin “the other” against which we are arrayed in battle.

Strike for Zion, down with error,
I confess, I am God’s foe;
Every day I pluck out an eyeball
Over self I conquering go.

I’ll submit it to the music committee and see what they say.

]]> By: MCQ http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-112144 MCQ Mon, 19 Sep 2011 22:01:35 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-112144 Syphax, what do you make of the Savior's injunction that "if thine eye offend thee pluck it out"? That doesn't sound like a physician caring lovingly for a patient to me. Syphax, what do you make of the Savior’s injunction that “if thine eye offend thee pluck it out”? That doesn’t sound like a physician caring lovingly for a patient to me.

]]> By: Silus Grok http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-112029 Silus Grok Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:57:43 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-112029 Amen to Syphax's comment (#23)! Amen to Syphax’s comment (#23)!

]]> By: Syphax http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-112018 Syphax Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:42:19 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-112018 For one, I prefer physician metaphors to war metaphors. Treat sin as an illness that must be cared for with love and patience. When we see others who sin (or when we see ourselves sin), we treat them as humans with an illness that we should care for and love until/if they get better, and if they don't get better, love them anyway, since they're the ones who are ultimately suffering the most. It's not a perfect metaphor, but that's not really the point of a metaphor I think. For one, I prefer physician metaphors to war metaphors. Treat sin as an illness that must be cared for with love and patience. When we see others who sin (or when we see ourselves sin), we treat them as humans with an illness that we should care for and love until/if they get better, and if they don’t get better, love them anyway, since they’re the ones who are ultimately suffering the most.

It’s not a perfect metaphor, but that’s not really the point of a metaphor I think.

]]> By: Mark B. http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-110292 Mark B. Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:19:41 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-110292 Isaiah used a pretty good one in chapter 40. I'd start there. Isaiah used a pretty good one in chapter 40. I’d start there.

]]> By: MCQ http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-109981 MCQ Thu, 15 Sep 2011 02:10:52 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-109981 That's it! Banned for life, Mark. I don't know how we put up with you this long. That’s it! Banned for life, Mark. I don’t know how we put up with you this long.

]]> By: Thaddeus http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623&cpage=1#comment-109933 Thaddeus Wed, 14 Sep 2011 23:27:42 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=1623#comment-109933 Mark B, what do you propose as a more enlightened metaphor? Mark B, what do you propose as a more enlightened metaphor?

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