You either haven’t read the series, or you’re choosing to take offense where none was intended.
Of course, I may be to blame… perhaps I wasn’t clear enough. But your accusations/questions would take too long to go through, here. So I’ll have to take a pass. Perhaps I’ll have the wherewithal to answer you in the essay…]]>
The Personals and Parades isn’t my scene, because I was raised in the LDS church, but I have great admiration for the courage of the optimists in the gay community. They are the ones who have made a difference for gay people in our culture, not I.
This blog was attempting to address the problems of gay people specifically in the LDS community, and I think it is also admirable, and has some good insights.]]>
Why not allow all people their diversity of thought, action, entertainment and values? Do you, along with the Church, believe that every gay person should be conservative, celibate and pious, exhanging chaste kisses and holding hands on an afternoon stroll at the mall?
So the Personals scene or the Pride parades isn’t you scene. Granted. And yet you don’t agree with gay marriage either. What do you want of the gay community? Anxiety? Misery? Loneliness? Self-flagellation? And if they don’t indulge in these, condemnation?]]>
* rolls eyes*
It wasn’t until I was 23 that I first uttered the words “gay” and “homosexual” in reference to myself.
I was also lucky, in that I had (still have) an ego the size of a small nation, and most of my peers’ painful comments were shrugged-off as the mutterings of barely-sentient creatures.
Of course, we may have had the same persecutors… as you may know, I grew up in Spokane and went to Central Valley HS… graduating the same year as one of Rusty’s sisters (Rusty, do you have more than one?).
Anyway, thank you for your kind words. Your comments alone make this entire series a success.
Kristin: You’re missing the point… I know that it’s a stereo-type, but is certainly _not_ a minority lifestyle. I was not only bemoaning the stereotype, but the flak gay social conservatives take for complaining… and my hope that wider acceptance of the gay community will make for a safer environment to have a critical discussion _within_ the community of our (many) excesses.
D: Thank you again for your thoughtful replies, here.]]>
I agree that the outrageous behavior of paraders is a stereotype, but unfortunately, it is the public face of the gay community. Until “quieter” and more committed relationships are legalized and public, the general population is going to think that the outrageous behavior is tantamount to being gay.
This false impression, that everyone who is gay is fabulous and promiscous, feeds the political right, hell-bent on preventing *those* people from ruining the country.
Again, I see a real need for a model of commitment, love, and stability among gay people, perhaps even religious fervor.
If there were such a model, I think a great many gay people I know would be grateful to simply marry and settle down, and not to have to march and display themselves and reveal their innermost feelings to the media.]]>
I agree that children deserve loving homes and a mother and father. But what they deserve most of all is love. Any two fertile heterosexual fools can have and raise children. They don’t need a license from the government, and the government can’t do much to make them be loving parents.
I think the jury is still very much out on how children raised in same-sex parented homes are affected. You, of all people, ought to keep your mind open to the possibilities.]]>
Your and D’s discussion of a “moral model” for gays is a compelling one… and I will have to take some time to think it through. That said, I do not believe — nor can I envision ever supporting — a mechanism that grants gay couples equal standing with healthy hetero households on issues regarding child-rearing. That is not to say that gay couples can’t be good parents… rather, it is my belief that children have a right to a mother and a father, and that the state needs to preserve its right to discriminate in favor of healthy hetero households.
Of course, this could take an entire _book_ to discuss… but hopefully I’ve made myself clear.]]>