Comments on: I Didn’t Get My Eagle

By: Kaimi

Kaimi — Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:59:01 +0000

(For a more lengthy discussion of Dale and honesty, see http://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php?p=195 ).

By: Kaimi

Kaimi — Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:56:57 +0000

I got a card too, Ned. I have no idea where it is. And I lost all respect for the scout program when they used dishonest arguments in the Dale case.

By: Lizardbreath

Lizardbreath — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:47:46 +0000

Ahhh, we just finished a 2 yr run with my husband as Scoutmaster in our ward. He falls into the category of: Loves the outdoors and camping, unimpressed with the Scouting program within the church & compelling YM to do it. Wish I had read this thread earlier. Great laughs. Unfortunately, our bishop was Scoutmaster for 7 yrs. When he released my husband, he literally said, “Now Brother, not everyone can be as great a Scoutmaster as Joe Blow [referred to himself in the 3rd person], and it was tough for you to try and fill those shoes.” My husband just kind of tuned out from that point on…

It was fun–we have 4 children 6 and under. He was Scoutmaster and I was YW President. Is that even legal?

By: Travis

Travis — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:55:28 +0000

Love the topic. Through extreme bribery, I did get my Eagle a few days before I turned 18, but if I ever put it on my resume (in my line of work) it would probably do more harm than good. Being an Eagle Scout in this day and age isn’t what it used to be in the 1950s.

By: San Clementian

San Clementian — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:09:00 +0000

I recieved my eagle at 17. I’ve used and continue to use what I learned in scouts numerous times. Everything from CPR, cooking, basic camping, to tieing knots. I wouldn’t dismiss the program as useless. The majority of things I learned are helpful in my daily life.

Scouting is like college. I’ve never really met anyone that has obtained an eagle or a degree and turned around and dismissed it as useless in there lives. The only people who generally do that obtained neither.

By: stephen b

stephen b — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:12:39 +0000

i love ned flanders…

i got an eagle scout card, that subsequently was stolen from a bathroom in mexico while i was on my mission playing soccer with some of the youth. it was in the wallet that i had for years that never threw anything away. que in the the theme song from seinfeld… thing is, the getting out of a ticket with your eagle scout card is total bollocks! that can’t be possible, unless the officer has his uniform on underneath his bullet-proof vest.

i do agree though that it depends a lot on the leaders ability to motivate the kids. if you have great leaders, you have the potential to have kids highly motivated in scouting.

albeit scouting is not a saving element in the eternal scheme of things. i don’t feel that it should be included in the every lesson growing up for both ym and yw that you have to be an eagle scout, missionary, etc to be a worthwhile mate. i think that the focus was lost long ago.

but it would be nicer if you could just have more time to be boys, jump over fires, and enjoy the times that can be shared. my issues with it stem from parental beurocracy.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 03:14:36 +0000

Ned,
LOL!!

By: NFlanders

NFlanders — Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:52:18 +0000

Umm, I don’t think there is an Eagle Scout ID card. At least, I didn’t get one. You get a certificate and a medallion; that’s it. Maybe your companion was wearing his Eagle medallion around when he was driving. The officer probably felt so sorry for him, he let him off with a warning.

By: Bret

Bret — Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:26:57 +0000

Bryce,
Yes, Wagstaff had something to do with it, but the whole attitude of scouting in general was that way and I think it makes it stupid and more work on worthless crap then it should be (instead of on the important stuff)
Remember I had Bro Jolley for 16 months and Wagstaff for 8 and Bro Squires as asisstant during that time.

By: Bryce

Bryce — Sat, 15 Oct 2005 10:06:00 +0000

Ok upon review of my brothers scouting expirences I realize something:
Brother Wagstaff vrs. Brother Squires
One guy the most anal man I think I could’ve possibly met. Who, as Bret said, never let the scouts be, well, scouts. And the other man, a humble soft spoken spiritual giant who is currently the Bishop of our home ward. The man was born on a horse in his scouting uniform I swear it.
Another point I thought of after my first post was for Rusty and the rest of you who whined about useless scouting. You complained that you could have been doing better, more fun, activites with your time and that railroading was stupid. But as I recall Rusty having a blast going rafting, moutain biking and fishing I believe all through scouts. You say Archery is pointless in NYC, but then say you didnt get to have any fun. SO why is it all the kids at scout camp try to sneak in the most Firing Range time possible? I dont think its couse theyre homicidle.