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		<title>By: a random John</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1513</link>
		<dc:creator>a random John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 07:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GE,

You might be able to reconstruct it using Google Cache if you act quickly.  Here is your Bill Cortelyou post, but my response indicating that he lived in my ward is not there:
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:mdvJwtmtzU8J:indybooks.blogspot.com/2005/08/im-not-first.html+cortelyou+site:http://indybooks.blogspot.com/&amp;hl=en

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GE,</p>
<p>You might be able to reconstruct it using Google Cache if you act quickly.  Here is your Bill Cortelyou post, but my response indicating that he lived in my ward is not there:<br />
<a href="http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:mdvJwtmtzU8J:indybooks.blogspot.com/2005/08/im-not-first.html+cortelyou+site:http://indybooks.blogspot.com/&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:mdvJwtmtzU8J:indybooks.blogspot.com/2005/08/im-not-first.html+cortelyou+site:http://indybooks.blogspot.com/&#038;hl=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: GreenEggz</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenEggz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 06:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I accidentally deleted the blog. I intended to delete another blog, but Blogger changed the order of the blogs on the control panel, and I was on auto-pilot.

I did not have all the posts backed up, so it is not completely reconstructed.  If you emailed yourself a post that has not been restored, send it to me, or post it as a comment somewhere and I&#039;ll put it back on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I accidentally deleted the blog. I intended to delete another blog, but Blogger changed the order of the blogs on the control panel, and I was on auto-pilot.</p>
<p>I did not have all the posts backed up, so it is not completely reconstructed.  If you emailed yourself a post that has not been restored, send it to me, or post it as a comment somewhere and I&#8217;ll put it back on.</p>
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		<title>By: a random John</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>a random John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2005 01:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GreenEggz,

Why did you take down the post about Bill Cortelyou?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GreenEggz,</p>
<p>Why did you take down the post about Bill Cortelyou?</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 23:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GreenEggz,
I&#039;ve been sending friends and people in my ward to your site. It&#039;s truly inspiring. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GreenEggz,<br />
I&#8217;ve been sending friends and people in my ward to your site. It&#8217;s truly inspiring. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenEggz</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenEggz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2005 23:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Mansfield:
   You&#039;re like me, thinking of missions in terms of &quot;lost income&quot; in addition to actual expenses.  Yeah boy!  Are you Tribe of Judah too?

Shalom.

Greenie.

P.S. Most of you have seen it, but if you haven&#039;t, check out my blog at indybooks.blogspot.com for ideas on finding people.  I finally gave out an English Book of Mormon to a native English-speaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Mansfield:<br />
   You&#8217;re like me, thinking of missions in terms of &#8220;lost income&#8221; in addition to actual expenses.  Yeah boy!  Are you Tribe of Judah too?</p>
<p>Shalom.</p>
<p>Greenie.</p>
<p>P.S. Most of you have seen it, but if you haven&#8217;t, check out my blog at indybooks.blogspot.com for ideas on finding people.  I finally gave out an English Book of Mormon to a native English-speaker.</p>
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		<title>By: don</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1508</link>
		<dc:creator>don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LL, great idea to introduce the video.  An alternate version like a random John suggests would be great too.

I love it. Just think I can do my missionary work without the work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LL, great idea to introduce the video.  An alternate version like a random John suggests would be great too.</p>
<p>I love it. Just think I can do my missionary work without the work.</p>
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		<title>By: a random John</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator>a random John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put the videos up on BitTorrent and put them in a format that all the cool kids can watch them on their video iPods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put the videos up on BitTorrent and put them in a format that all the cool kids can watch them on their video iPods.</p>
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		<title>By: John Mansfield</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mansfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last week, I was driving the missionaries around our Maryland ward.  One visit was to someone they met knocking.  (That&#039;s what they called it, not tracting; it&#039;s a long time since we&#039;ve gone around handing out pamphlets; the traditional wording seems to be loosening its grip.)  They chuckled, &quot;In fact pretty much all of our investigators we&#039;ve met knocking.&quot;  Every place and time has its peculiarities of what works and what doesn&#039;t.  My brother-in-law who served in the Ogden mission, sometimes covering two stakes, said tracting could at times be useful for embarrassing wards into action.

Visiting members could be very useful in my Latin American mission.  People there visited one another spontaneously, so if we dropped in on someone we knew, there was a good chance of getting to meet and talk with another guest.  Most &quot;working with the members&quot; in the U.S. that I&#039;ve seen, though, amounts to little more than haranguing members to find investigators.  If the called missionaries aren&#039;t finding investigators themselves, there isn&#039;t a lead for the uncalled missionaries to follow.  And we have to reach people who aren&#039;t so lucky as to have a Mormon friend.

I like the DVD idea.  We spend so much time telling people &quot;We have a message.  We have a message.&quot;  Some of that effort can be expended actually telling the message.

This morning in my mailbox there was a Priority Mail envelope.  That&#039;s $3.85 in postage plus the cost of the USPS cardboard mailer.  It was from Branchburg, NJ, which seemed dubious, but who would spend all that money on a mass mailing?  It turned out to be an ad from Verizon for fiber optic connections they had recently finished installing in my neigborhood.  By investing a little in it, they got me to open it.  I didn&#039;t feel tricked because there was some purposeful targeting involved.  Suppose every time we completed construction of a building such a mailing were sent to every house within five or ten miles with the meeting schedule and Brother Don&#039;s DVD.  It would cost a bit, but every missionary companionship costs over $800 per month in maintenance and another $1600 in lost income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week, I was driving the missionaries around our Maryland ward.  One visit was to someone they met knocking.  (That&#8217;s what they called it, not tracting; it&#8217;s a long time since we&#8217;ve gone around handing out pamphlets; the traditional wording seems to be loosening its grip.)  They chuckled, &#8220;In fact pretty much all of our investigators we&#8217;ve met knocking.&#8221;  Every place and time has its peculiarities of what works and what doesn&#8217;t.  My brother-in-law who served in the Ogden mission, sometimes covering two stakes, said tracting could at times be useful for embarrassing wards into action.</p>
<p>Visiting members could be very useful in my Latin American mission.  People there visited one another spontaneously, so if we dropped in on someone we knew, there was a good chance of getting to meet and talk with another guest.  Most &#8220;working with the members&#8221; in the U.S. that I&#8217;ve seen, though, amounts to little more than haranguing members to find investigators.  If the called missionaries aren&#8217;t finding investigators themselves, there isn&#8217;t a lead for the uncalled missionaries to follow.  And we have to reach people who aren&#8217;t so lucky as to have a Mormon friend.</p>
<p>I like the DVD idea.  We spend so much time telling people &#8220;We have a message.  We have a message.&#8221;  Some of that effort can be expended actually telling the message.</p>
<p>This morning in my mailbox there was a Priority Mail envelope.  That&#8217;s $3.85 in postage plus the cost of the USPS cardboard mailer.  It was from Branchburg, NJ, which seemed dubious, but who would spend all that money on a mass mailing?  It turned out to be an ad from Verizon for fiber optic connections they had recently finished installing in my neigborhood.  By investing a little in it, they got me to open it.  I didn&#8217;t feel tricked because there was some purposeful targeting involved.  Suppose every time we completed construction of a building such a mailing were sent to every house within five or ten miles with the meeting schedule and Brother Don&#8217;s DVD.  It would cost a bit, but every missionary companionship costs over $800 per month in maintenance and another $1600 in lost income.</p>
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		<title>By: Last Lemming</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator>Last Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody more creative than me can flesh this out, but I have an idea for getting rid of tracting and simulaneously introducing a &quot;20 questions&quot; video.

First, buy advertising time on all networks to announce a halt to tracting.  The announcement itself would be made by Jon Heder, in character, dressed in full missionary regalia (complete with an Elder Dynamite nametag). He would say something like...

&quot;So, I guess some of you figured out that I&#039;m probably Mormon.  That means it&#039;s about time for me to come knocking on your door to try to tell you about my church.  But GOSH, I HATE doing that kind of stuff, so I told them I didn&#039;t want to do it.  And they said, &#039;well OK, we won&#039;t send guys door to door any more.&#039;  So instead, they made this SWEET DVD that answers all the questions you never dared asked your Mormon friends, like whether they have horns and stuff.  So if you want one, just call and well bring one over.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody more creative than me can flesh this out, but I have an idea for getting rid of tracting and simulaneously introducing a &#8220;20 questions&#8221; video.</p>
<p>First, buy advertising time on all networks to announce a halt to tracting.  The announcement itself would be made by Jon Heder, in character, dressed in full missionary regalia (complete with an Elder Dynamite nametag). He would say something like&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;So, I guess some of you figured out that I&#8217;m probably Mormon.  That means it&#8217;s about time for me to come knocking on your door to try to tell you about my church.  But GOSH, I HATE doing that kind of stuff, so I told them I didn&#8217;t want to do it.  And they said, &#8216;well OK, we won&#8217;t send guys door to door any more.&#8217;  So instead, they made this SWEET DVD that answers all the questions you never dared asked your Mormon friends, like whether they have horns and stuff.  So if you want one, just call and well bring one over.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=179&#038;cpage=1#comment-1504</link>
		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much negative as we can find about tracting, all 14 baptisms I had in England were from tracting. One day we decided the same Elder would tract until he got an appointment, or invited in. I went 4 hours before we changed turns. We played all sorts of games to make it more it &quot;fun&quot;. As bad as it is, converts do come from it. I just think there&#039;s got to be better ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much negative as we can find about tracting, all 14 baptisms I had in England were from tracting. One day we decided the same Elder would tract until he got an appointment, or invited in. I went 4 hours before we changed turns. We played all sorts of games to make it more it &#8220;fun&#8221;. As bad as it is, converts do come from it. I just think there&#8217;s got to be better ways.</p>
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