Comments on: How Many Worlds Did Christ Really Create?

By: richard

richard — Wed, 18 Jan 2006 23:31:21 +0000

This doesnt even address the possiblity of a multi-world or a multi-universe where this world is duplicated millions of times over and Christ is savior for this one world which is actually millions.
Someone shoot the quantum mechanic!
Our understanding is severely limited in other words.

By: kristen j

kristen j — Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:46:33 +0000

Interesting post. I’ll just continue to lurk here.

By: Geoff J

Geoff J — Sun, 15 Jan 2006 19:53:02 +0000

Hehe… I didn’t say I didn’t like swimming in deep water Don!

By: Kim Siever

Kim Siever — Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:08:46 +0000

He’ll do consulting.

By: don

don — Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:18:54 +0000

Kim, if God has a finite number of children then His work will be completed when all of them have their chance to become celestialized. What’s He do then?

Could it be a continuing spirit birth basis?

By: Kim Siever

Kim Siever — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:09:56 +0000

Don,

Jacob seems to imply that Jesus is the saviour for those who are descended from Adam (inhabitants of this earth):

“[He] cometh into the world that he may save all men if they will hearken unto his voice; for behold, he suffereth the pains of all men, yea, the pains of every living creature, both men, women, and children, who belong to the family of Adam.” (2 Ne. 9:21)

I posit the question, does God need to have an infinite number of spirit children?

By: don

don — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:08:53 +0000

Geoff, you crack me up. Your statement that “we’re in way past our depth here” is the whole point. Obviously we are, because you then speculate on the answers the the very questions I asked. This process for me at least, brings new ideas to my mind and that’s why I appreciate everyone’s comments…like yours about the council being symbolic…I never have thought of that as a possibility…not that I agree…just interesting to think about.

Steve S., Good thoughts, again I appreciate other people’s insights and thoughts…thanks

By: Steve S

Steve S — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:47:14 +0000

I think that "first born," "best guy" , and "greatest of all," as descriptions of Jesus are probably synonymous in most contexts. See "Was Jesus Created First?". The resurrection is one reason that Jesus is called the "firstborn of many brethren." He is also the "firstborn spirit child of God the Father," but I am not sure that this has to mean that he was literally the first of our Father's children to become a spirit. I don't know how many worlds he has created, but I believe that his role as the creator and redeemer of this world is infinitely important.

By: Geoff J

Geoff J — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 07:29:27 +0000

Don,

I think we’re in way past our depth here…

For what it’s worth, I don’t know if it is useful to discuss how many planets Jesus Christ has made. You are making assumptions about the individual that makes planets when all we know is that “God” was talking to Moses in those scriptures. The voice of God seems to represent the unified divine persons that make up what the scriptures call the One God. So we do not know the role of Jesus in that process specifically.

Also, we know very little about this council in heaven. I personally believe the concept is symbolic of the choice free agents must make between good and evil throughout eternity — not a big meeting as it is commonly represented. Therefore, we are still in the middle of that council right now.

Last, I think that every world likely does follow the same basic script of our world and each has a savior. (The course of the Lord is one eternal round…)

By: J. Stapley

J. Stapley — Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:39:05 +0000

Don, I imagine that there could be another council in heaven, right now, for another “spirit generation.” There would need to be a savior for that generation, and a God would be required to fill that roll.

If you think about it, more than any other source, the Temple limits the scope of the atonement to this one planet. The fall was a possibility and in the instance that they would transgress the law, God would provide an Atonement. We know that the events of the Garden were not singular.