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		<title>By: sperm</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=329&#038;cpage=1#comment-47707</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too, considered stopping, i&#039;ll &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.setbb.com/jamalplovertun&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sperm girls&lt;/a&gt;  tell me out for some minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too, considered stopping, i&#8217;ll <a href="http://www.setbb.com/jamalplovertun" rel="nofollow">sperm girls</a>  tell me out for some minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=329&#038;cpage=1#comment-13393</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 13:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: that last post, &quot;a tithing miracle story without the tithing.&quot;  It&#039;s sad that you can be so glib.  I wonder if you will still feel that way when you are face to face with the Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: that last post, &#8220;a tithing miracle story without the tithing.&#8221;  It&#8217;s sad that you can be so glib.  I wonder if you will still feel that way when you are face to face with the Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=329&#038;cpage=1#comment-4396</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, thanks.  After my wife and I got married and I graduated from college, I had a hard time finding a job.  Familiar story, newly married college students strapped for cash.  I sunk into a depression and our relationship suffered from the stress.  Throughout it all, we never paid tithing (we left the church before we were married).  Then in one week, we found out that our only car (a sad Bronco II) was about to drop its transmission, and that my wife was pregnant.  That very same week, I found out I got a great job, and that we would have to move (and get a new car).  

Well, it took some doing (and a little borrowing), but we made it through ok.  I advanced up the ladder at my job, we had a healthy baby girl, and moved into a great house with a big yard.  And although we have money now, and could afford to pay tithing, we still don&#039;t.  I guess this is like a like a tithing miracle story, just without the tithing ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, thanks.  After my wife and I got married and I graduated from college, I had a hard time finding a job.  Familiar story, newly married college students strapped for cash.  I sunk into a depression and our relationship suffered from the stress.  Throughout it all, we never paid tithing (we left the church before we were married).  Then in one week, we found out that our only car (a sad Bronco II) was about to drop its transmission, and that my wife was pregnant.  That very same week, I found out I got a great job, and that we would have to move (and get a new car).  </p>
<p>Well, it took some doing (and a little borrowing), but we made it through ok.  I advanced up the ladder at my job, we had a healthy baby girl, and moved into a great house with a big yard.  And although we have money now, and could afford to pay tithing, we still don&#8217;t.  I guess this is like a like a tithing miracle story, just without the tithing ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific post, Susan.  We started off very young and very poor and have many similar stories, including one where, no kidding, our home teachers showed up with an &quot;extra&quot; Christmas tree they had (they really did end up with an extra through some strange turn of events), complete with lights and presents to go under it.  Just before they arrived my wife and I had finished a fairly grim conversation about how we would be okay without any Christmas celebration that year, the kids were too young to notice, this would help us focus more on the spiritual aspects for the season, etc.  It was a surreal moment when our HTer was at the door and then brought in, no ifs ands or buts, this big ol&#039; tree with all the trimmings -- like being in a Seminary movie or something.  

In the long view that&#039;s a very small thing I suppose; there were many other instances where we somehow miraculously got by while paying our tithing, or had less stress about the very thin shoestring we were on than we did during times when we &lt;em&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; pay it.  But that Christmas tree incident really stands out in my memory as one of God&#039;s &quot;tender mercies&quot; for those who are trying to do what they can.  

One other thing: we&#039;ve had some very good financial years since then; one year we paid more in tithing than we did in total for our first house.  I do not mean to brag -- my point is that paying tithing is not easier or harder if you&#039;re paying a lot or a little.  It&#039;s not easier on the rich or the poor.  How easy it is to pay and how cheerfully and faithfully you do so is really up to you and nothing else.  

And, IMO, while the actual paying of it is the concrete test of our faith, doing so with a griping, reluctant heart makes all the difference too.  With due respect to the poster above, the attitude of &quot;talk to me about anything you like, but not tithing&quot; sounds like nothing so much as &quot;talk to me about anything you like except for that one area where I really need to learn something.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific post, Susan.  We started off very young and very poor and have many similar stories, including one where, no kidding, our home teachers showed up with an &#8220;extra&#8221; Christmas tree they had (they really did end up with an extra through some strange turn of events), complete with lights and presents to go under it.  Just before they arrived my wife and I had finished a fairly grim conversation about how we would be okay without any Christmas celebration that year, the kids were too young to notice, this would help us focus more on the spiritual aspects for the season, etc.  It was a surreal moment when our HTer was at the door and then brought in, no ifs ands or buts, this big ol&#8217; tree with all the trimmings &#8212; like being in a Seminary movie or something.  </p>
<p>In the long view that&#8217;s a very small thing I suppose; there were many other instances where we somehow miraculously got by while paying our tithing, or had less stress about the very thin shoestring we were on than we did during times when we <em>didn&#8217;t</em> pay it.  But that Christmas tree incident really stands out in my memory as one of God&#8217;s &#8220;tender mercies&#8221; for those who are trying to do what they can.  </p>
<p>One other thing: we&#8217;ve had some very good financial years since then; one year we paid more in tithing than we did in total for our first house.  I do not mean to brag &#8212; my point is that paying tithing is not easier or harder if you&#8217;re paying a lot or a little.  It&#8217;s not easier on the rich or the poor.  How easy it is to pay and how cheerfully and faithfully you do so is really up to you and nothing else.  </p>
<p>And, IMO, while the actual paying of it is the concrete test of our faith, doing so with a griping, reluctant heart makes all the difference too.  With due respect to the poster above, the attitude of &#8220;talk to me about anything you like, but not tithing&#8221; sounds like nothing so much as &#8220;talk to me about anything you like except for that one area where I really need to learn something.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: annegb</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Susan.  Tells the real truth.  Life is so hard for young families.  We always paid our tithing, but a lot the time we were negotiating with the power company or our mortgage people to accept late payments.  I think we did the right thing and we have been blessed, but it sure wasn&#039;t easy.

One thing I loved about John Groberg&#039;s book is how he says they struggled despite their service to the Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Susan.  Tells the real truth.  Life is so hard for young families.  We always paid our tithing, but a lot the time we were negotiating with the power company or our mortgage people to accept late payments.  I think we did the right thing and we have been blessed, but it sure wasn&#8217;t easy.</p>
<p>One thing I loved about John Groberg&#8217;s book is how he says they struggled despite their service to the Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim - lol! I had a Seminary teacher that used to say &quot;Pay your tithing and you won&#039;t burn! You might meet death in another unpleasant way though; like drowning, decapitation, getting run over by a truck, falling off a cliff..&quot; etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim &#8211; lol! I had a Seminary teacher that used to say &#8220;Pay your tithing and you won&#8217;t burn! You might meet death in another unpleasant way though; like drowning, decapitation, getting run over by a truck, falling off a cliff..&#8221; etc.</p>
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		<title>By: SunstoneBlog.com &#187; Nine Moons</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=329&#038;cpage=1#comment-4148</link>
		<dc:creator>SunstoneBlog.com &#187; Nine Moons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At Nine Moons: The first time I paid tithing, my gas was shut off. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Susan M</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=329&#038;cpage=1#comment-4147</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CS Eric, I can relate. It seems like whenever we have some extra money in savings, something bad happens and it gets all eaten up.It&#039;s been consistent enough that I actually get kinda nervous whenever we have a chunk in savings. What&#039;s going to break now?

There was also a period of time, after my experiences I posted about, when my husband had a decent job, but we were still just barely scraping by. I started paying extra in fast offering. I decided his next paycheck should be a certain dollar amount, and I upped my fast offering so that our total tithing/fast offering was 10% of that amount. His next paycheck, without fail, would be the amount I&#039;d set. (He got overtime.)

He was inactive at the time, and later on when I told him about it, he said, &quot;So you&#039;re the reason I had to work all that overtime.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CS Eric, I can relate. It seems like whenever we have some extra money in savings, something bad happens and it gets all eaten up.It&#8217;s been consistent enough that I actually get kinda nervous whenever we have a chunk in savings. What&#8217;s going to break now?</p>
<p>There was also a period of time, after my experiences I posted about, when my husband had a decent job, but we were still just barely scraping by. I started paying extra in fast offering. I decided his next paycheck should be a certain dollar amount, and I upped my fast offering so that our total tithing/fast offering was 10% of that amount. His next paycheck, without fail, would be the amount I&#8217;d set. (He got overtime.)</p>
<p>He was inactive at the time, and later on when I told him about it, he said, &#8220;So you&#8217;re the reason I had to work all that overtime.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Siever</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Siever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, they do say tithing is fire insurance. I guess if your gas is turned off, your house can&#039;t explode. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, they do say tithing is fire insurance. I guess if your gas is turned off, your house can&#8217;t explode. :)</p>
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		<title>By: CS Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>CS Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 18:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could share the same perspective.  Our experience with tithing has been similar to the way your story started out.  I used to joke that you could tell when we were paying our tithing, because our car was in the shop for repairs.  You could also tell how much it was going to cost, because all you had to do was add up the amount we paid in tithing.

The hardest it ever got was when I was determined to pay, regardless.  Seven months.  When I finally surrendered, the only saving grace was that the mechanic felt so bad for us that he only charged us half for labor.  It still came to much more than we had, and I had to borrow money from my father, which took five years to repay.

The next time we tried it, we did so with an agreement with the bishop that he would pay our housing costs if we paid our tithing (the house was in forclosure by that time, this time because of medical expenses).  That worked until I got a job transfer.  We are trying it again, and again our extra expenses (again, mostly medical) are almost exactly the amount we are paying in tithing.

I tell every new bishop or branch president when we move into their unit that I would be glad to take any calling, and would be glad to talk on any subject--except tithing.  Even in retrospect, I can&#039;t see where we have been blessed for trying to keep this commandment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could share the same perspective.  Our experience with tithing has been similar to the way your story started out.  I used to joke that you could tell when we were paying our tithing, because our car was in the shop for repairs.  You could also tell how much it was going to cost, because all you had to do was add up the amount we paid in tithing.</p>
<p>The hardest it ever got was when I was determined to pay, regardless.  Seven months.  When I finally surrendered, the only saving grace was that the mechanic felt so bad for us that he only charged us half for labor.  It still came to much more than we had, and I had to borrow money from my father, which took five years to repay.</p>
<p>The next time we tried it, we did so with an agreement with the bishop that he would pay our housing costs if we paid our tithing (the house was in forclosure by that time, this time because of medical expenses).  That worked until I got a job transfer.  We are trying it again, and again our extra expenses (again, mostly medical) are almost exactly the amount we are paying in tithing.</p>
<p>I tell every new bishop or branch president when we move into their unit that I would be glad to take any calling, and would be glad to talk on any subject&#8211;except tithing.  Even in retrospect, I can&#8217;t see where we have been blessed for trying to keep this commandment.</p>
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