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		<title>By: FHL</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-4336</link>
		<dc:creator>FHL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually had a girl tell me, coyly I thought later, that she was afraid she was going to have to buy her sisters ice cream today. This was before I knew about this &quot;tradition.&quot; She wouldn&#039;t explain it to me, but I found out from one of my friends what she was talking about.

Silly girls! =)

I might point out one big difference - nobody ever asks if you&#039;ve got protection before you kiss them! 

&quot;I&#039;m sorry, I only practice safe kissing. Let me pull out my Amway plastic wrap to put between our faces...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually had a girl tell me, coyly I thought later, that she was afraid she was going to have to buy her sisters ice cream today. This was before I knew about this &#8220;tradition.&#8221; She wouldn&#8217;t explain it to me, but I found out from one of my friends what she was talking about.</p>
<p>Silly girls! =)</p>
<p>I might point out one big difference &#8211; nobody ever asks if you&#8217;ve got protection before you kiss them! </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, I only practice safe kissing. Let me pull out my Amway plastic wrap to put between our faces&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-4333</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have an &quot;I&#039;m done listening&quot; snore that really gets &#039;em.  What I most need is a good eye roll emoticon.  I would get a lot of mileage out of that one &#039;round the &#039;nacle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have an &#8220;I&#8217;m done listening&#8221; snore that really gets &#8216;em.  What I most need is a good eye roll emoticon.  I would get a lot of mileage out of that one &#8217;round the &#8216;nacle.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-4332</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Lisa, I&#039;m still at a loss.

Here&#039;s how I see it: Mormon guys enjoy kissing Mormon girls (and vice-versa). Non-Mormon guys enjoy having sex with non-Mormon girls (and vice-versa). And there are a lot of parallels between the two.

This is now two comments you&#039;ve made without actually citing examples. I think we have tough enough skin to take it (even if we have too thick of skulls to understand it). I just hope it&#039;s not all based on my usage of the term &quot;hot chick&quot;, that would just be silly.

Tom, 
I didn&#039;t know you could patent such a thing, that&#039;s awesome! We used to always make fun of my sister about her &quot;Angie Sigh&quot;, maybe she should patent it, market it and make millions :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Lisa, I&#8217;m still at a loss.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how I see it: Mormon guys enjoy kissing Mormon girls (and vice-versa). Non-Mormon guys enjoy having sex with non-Mormon girls (and vice-versa). And there are a lot of parallels between the two.</p>
<p>This is now two comments you&#8217;ve made without actually citing examples. I think we have tough enough skin to take it (even if we have too thick of skulls to understand it). I just hope it&#8217;s not all based on my usage of the term &#8220;hot chick&#8221;, that would just be silly.</p>
<p>Tom,<br />
I didn&#8217;t know you could patent such a thing, that&#8217;s awesome! We used to always make fun of my sister about her &#8220;Angie Sigh&#8221;, maybe she should patent it, market it and make millions :)</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-4327</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 09:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the time you&#039;re married, Bret (assuming you ever make it there and assuming that you kiss your wife), you&#039;ll be tied with me even if the only other person you kiss is your wife.  My grand total is two (same with my wife, if she is to be believed).  I would like to say that&#039;s because I was principled and didn&#039;t believe in kissing promiscuity, but mostly it was because I only had two opportunities.  I am Captain Megadork.

Lisa, you get my patented eye roll.  It&#039;s the same one that my mom gets when she tells me that the pee-eye-ess-ess word is a cuss word.  How does it feel?  That&#039;s what I thought.

But seriously, rather than indict a whole thread of folks, some of whom have not expressed any sentiment that even you could consider sexist, I think it&#039;s best to cite specific examples if you have complaints.  That way people can defend themselves against your charges, or just roll their eyes as they see fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the time you&#8217;re married, Bret (assuming you ever make it there and assuming that you kiss your wife), you&#8217;ll be tied with me even if the only other person you kiss is your wife.  My grand total is two (same with my wife, if she is to be believed).  I would like to say that&#8217;s because I was principled and didn&#8217;t believe in kissing promiscuity, but mostly it was because I only had two opportunities.  I am Captain Megadork.</p>
<p>Lisa, you get my patented eye roll.  It&#8217;s the same one that my mom gets when she tells me that the pee-eye-ess-ess word is a cuss word.  How does it feel?  That&#8217;s what I thought.</p>
<p>But seriously, rather than indict a whole thread of folks, some of whom have not expressed any sentiment that even you could consider sexist, I think it&#8217;s best to cite specific examples if you have complaints.  That way people can defend themselves against your charges, or just roll their eyes as they see fit.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-4324</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fMLisa,

Don&#039;t worry about it:) I&#039;ve wondered the same things but that&#039;s just the way things are, I suppose. Like I said, the pizza thing was just a ting my apartment did. As for the ice cream, girls are the ones who I assume came up with it and are perpetuating it, so they&#039;re being sexist to themselves! Being a guy, I find that funny but I can understand why that would make more rational people like you that much more upset. Sorry!
Anyway, like I said, I&#039;m still a lame single guy who&#039;s only kissed one girl (I didn&#039;t even get to make-out with her which is a difference that hasn&#039;t been discussed yet here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fMLisa,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about it:) I&#8217;ve wondered the same things but that&#8217;s just the way things are, I suppose. Like I said, the pizza thing was just a ting my apartment did. As for the ice cream, girls are the ones who I assume came up with it and are perpetuating it, so they&#8217;re being sexist to themselves! Being a guy, I find that funny but I can understand why that would make more rational people like you that much more upset. Sorry!<br />
Anyway, like I said, I&#8217;m still a lame single guy who&#8217;s only kissed one girl (I didn&#8217;t even get to make-out with her which is a difference that hasn&#8217;t been discussed yet here)</p>
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		<title>By: fMhLisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>fMhLisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 05:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be such a mood killer.  I guess I was having one of my mean angry feminist moments.  (I&#039;m actually rather fond of my mean angry feminist, but other people tire of her quickly)(can you imagine?)

I&#039;m now in the clutches of my sad angry feminist.  I guess I was hoping that it was at least self-aware light-hearted rampant sexism. And it just makes me tired and sad and disappointed that even now, that I&#039;ve ruined all the fun (sorry about that) you still don&#039;t see it, but rather get defensive.  What&#039;s a gal to do? 

I don&#039;t have the energy to parse out all the many rampant sexisms right now.  But if you sincerely want me to help you see how I see (that does sound condesending, but I can&#039;t think of how else to word it)(you&#039;re also welcome to help me see how you see), I&#039;ll do it in the near future.  If you&#039;d rather just drop it that&#039;s okay too.  Just let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be such a mood killer.  I guess I was having one of my mean angry feminist moments.  (I&#8217;m actually rather fond of my mean angry feminist, but other people tire of her quickly)(can you imagine?)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m now in the clutches of my sad angry feminist.  I guess I was hoping that it was at least self-aware light-hearted rampant sexism. And it just makes me tired and sad and disappointed that even now, that I&#8217;ve ruined all the fun (sorry about that) you still don&#8217;t see it, but rather get defensive.  What&#8217;s a gal to do? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have the energy to parse out all the many rampant sexisms right now.  But if you sincerely want me to help you see how I see (that does sound condesending, but I can&#8217;t think of how else to word it)(you&#8217;re also welcome to help me see how you see), I&#8217;ll do it in the near future.  If you&#8217;d rather just drop it that&#8217;s okay too.  Just let me know.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-4319</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 01:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa,
Yes, please clarify. &lt;i&gt;Rampant&lt;/i&gt; sexism? Not in a single one of my bullet-points do I discern between boys and girls and almost none of the comments make that distinction either. What&#039;s the problem again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,<br />
Yes, please clarify. <i>Rampant</i> sexism? Not in a single one of my bullet-points do I discern between boys and girls and almost none of the comments make that distinction either. What&#8217;s the problem again?</p>
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		<title>By: meems</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-4318</link>
		<dc:creator>meems</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the term &quot;slut&quot; almost never applies to the guy involved and is  a term used to denegrate women, I can see the rampant sexism, yes.  Why are the women considered  the promiscuous kissers and not the men?  Why are men rewarded with pizza for a kiss and if it were a conquest, while women have to give ice cream to appease the guilt (in terms of others&#039; jealousies)?  Why are guys refering to which girls were &quot;easy kissers&quot; and which girls were not &quot;easy&quot;?  WHy is there a double standard here?

Is that what you meant, Lisa?  Am I off base?

Of course, the absolute absurdity of it all is what makes it quite silly and humorous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the term &#8220;slut&#8221; almost never applies to the guy involved and is  a term used to denegrate women, I can see the rampant sexism, yes.  Why are the women considered  the promiscuous kissers and not the men?  Why are men rewarded with pizza for a kiss and if it were a conquest, while women have to give ice cream to appease the guilt (in terms of others&#8217; jealousies)?  Why are guys refering to which girls were &#8220;easy kissers&#8221; and which girls were not &#8220;easy&#8221;?  WHy is there a double standard here?</p>
<p>Is that what you meant, Lisa?  Am I off base?</p>
<p>Of course, the absolute absurdity of it all is what makes it quite silly and humorous.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 22:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, actually, I&#039;m not. Care to clarify?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, actually, I&#8217;m not. Care to clarify?</p>
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		<title>By: fMhLisa</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=342&#038;cpage=1#comment-4309</link>
		<dc:creator>fMhLisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 21:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to be clear, you all are aware, right? of the rampant sexism underlying this entire conversation.  

Just wanted to make sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be clear, you all are aware, right? of the rampant sexism underlying this entire conversation.  </p>
<p>Just wanted to make sure.</p>
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