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		<title>By: AJ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19868</link>
		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I have never looked at the bishopric counselors as having &quot;power and authority&quot; over me in any sort of personal way.  Sure, someone has to preside over the organizations and keep things running smoothly. I don&#039;t look at someone as suddenly becoming super human due to their calling.  I respect what they are doing and respect the fact that they are willing to accept callings that take up so much time and energy. I give everyone props for that.  I don&#039;t think these types of callings make an individual automatically better or elevated compared to the rest of the ward.  We have great men in our bishopric and we have plenty of other great men in our ward as well.

I think that serving in the bishopric is an awesome opportunity to serve and to also get to see the miracles that take place within a ward that the general membership may be unaware of. I would be thrilled if my husband were called to the bishopric because I know it would be a wonderful testimony building and growth experience for him.  Granted, I no longer have small children and so it would not be as burdensome to our family as it is to many others.

Being female, I know I probably will never understand the pressures of being in a bishopric and I am sure there is a lot I just don&#039;t know or understand.  It seems to me, however, that it might be wise to take the calling seriously but don&#039;t take yourself too seriously in the calling.   I have had friends in high leadership positions (and their wives) who got really majorly stressed out because they felt the pressure to be perfect over night. That isn&#039;t fair.  We need to give these guys a break too.  I also think that some make it worse on themselves, when they understake the task of trying to force people to comply with their requests. My personal opinion is that if a person declines an invitation to speak, then accept the decline gracefully.  I don&#039;t understand the tendency to try and talk people into things against their will.  Encouragement is one thing but sometimes I think that there is a desire to &quot;fix&quot; people and we forget to respect their agency.  We all are growing at differnet speeds and in different areas.  I don&#039;t like asking people to do stuff either but when they say &quot;no&quot; I try and handle it gracefully and move on to the next one on the list.  Anyway, that&#039;s is just my opinion on the subject.  I am sure many disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I have never looked at the bishopric counselors as having &#8220;power and authority&#8221; over me in any sort of personal way.  Sure, someone has to preside over the organizations and keep things running smoothly. I don&#8217;t look at someone as suddenly becoming super human due to their calling.  I respect what they are doing and respect the fact that they are willing to accept callings that take up so much time and energy. I give everyone props for that.  I don&#8217;t think these types of callings make an individual automatically better or elevated compared to the rest of the ward.  We have great men in our bishopric and we have plenty of other great men in our ward as well.</p>
<p>I think that serving in the bishopric is an awesome opportunity to serve and to also get to see the miracles that take place within a ward that the general membership may be unaware of. I would be thrilled if my husband were called to the bishopric because I know it would be a wonderful testimony building and growth experience for him.  Granted, I no longer have small children and so it would not be as burdensome to our family as it is to many others.</p>
<p>Being female, I know I probably will never understand the pressures of being in a bishopric and I am sure there is a lot I just don&#8217;t know or understand.  It seems to me, however, that it might be wise to take the calling seriously but don&#8217;t take yourself too seriously in the calling.   I have had friends in high leadership positions (and their wives) who got really majorly stressed out because they felt the pressure to be perfect over night. That isn&#8217;t fair.  We need to give these guys a break too.  I also think that some make it worse on themselves, when they understake the task of trying to force people to comply with their requests. My personal opinion is that if a person declines an invitation to speak, then accept the decline gracefully.  I don&#8217;t understand the tendency to try and talk people into things against their will.  Encouragement is one thing but sometimes I think that there is a desire to &#8220;fix&#8221; people and we forget to respect their agency.  We all are growing at differnet speeds and in different areas.  I don&#8217;t like asking people to do stuff either but when they say &#8220;no&#8221; I try and handle it gracefully and move on to the next one on the list.  Anyway, that&#8217;s is just my opinion on the subject.  I am sure many disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19731</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty,

I found out a funny thing about myself and leadership. I&#039;m certianly no good at it for most of the same reasons you stated (I already knew that) but that it is not like the old adage &quot;leadership is a lonely position&quot; for me. I guess with all the responsiblities they require I have to get to know more people and interact with them; hopefully in a friendly way. When I&#039;m in a low-maintenance calling, it&#039;s a whole lot easier for me to be the recluse that I am and only talk to people I feel like talking to.

This still doesn&#039;t mean I necessarily want big leadership callings, but I don&#039;t mind them so much anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty,</p>
<p>I found out a funny thing about myself and leadership. I&#8217;m certianly no good at it for most of the same reasons you stated (I already knew that) but that it is not like the old adage &#8220;leadership is a lonely position&#8221; for me. I guess with all the responsiblities they require I have to get to know more people and interact with them; hopefully in a friendly way. When I&#8217;m in a low-maintenance calling, it&#8217;s a whole lot easier for me to be the recluse that I am and only talk to people I feel like talking to.</p>
<p>This still doesn&#8217;t mean I necessarily want big leadership callings, but I don&#8217;t mind them so much anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: lamonte</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19652</link>
		<dc:creator>lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hardest part of being the bishop - giving a temple recommend interview to your former bishop.)

I never felt like I was &quot;presiding&quot; over the ward members.  I guess it&#039;s the same thing for me when I have served as a manager or supervisor.  I just felt like my job was to help them do their job better.  When I was bishop I was just there to help people live their lives better.  When someone would come to me to confess a serious transgression they usually were afraid that I would be shocked.  But the reality of it was that I had usually heard much worse from others.  And when you serve as bishop the Lord gives you a new perspective about the transgressions of others.  I loved that job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hardest part of being the bishop &#8211; giving a temple recommend interview to your former bishop.)</p>
<p>I never felt like I was &#8220;presiding&#8221; over the ward members.  I guess it&#8217;s the same thing for me when I have served as a manager or supervisor.  I just felt like my job was to help them do their job better.  When I was bishop I was just there to help people live their lives better.  When someone would come to me to confess a serious transgression they usually were afraid that I would be shocked.  But the reality of it was that I had usually heard much worse from others.  And when you serve as bishop the Lord gives you a new perspective about the transgressions of others.  I loved that job.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Clifton</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19594</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Clifton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the hardest parts of serving in the Bishopric for me was extending callings to people considerably older than me...especially when they refuse.

Also I remember, back when we ward had a budget, and temple assesment, asking a very active member to contribute what the Bishop thought was appropriate and his reaction....not good and very uncomfortable for me.

Also temple interviews and youth interviews are bad when they have something to &quot;talk about&quot; (confess).  Stop! I don&#039;t need to hear this....take it to the Bishop.

I hid out in primary most of the time too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the hardest parts of serving in the Bishopric for me was extending callings to people considerably older than me&#8230;especially when they refuse.</p>
<p>Also I remember, back when we ward had a budget, and temple assesment, asking a very active member to contribute what the Bishop thought was appropriate and his reaction&#8230;.not good and very uncomfortable for me.</p>
<p>Also temple interviews and youth interviews are bad when they have something to &#8220;talk about&#8221; (confess).  Stop! I don&#8217;t need to hear this&#8230;.take it to the Bishop.</p>
<p>I hid out in primary most of the time too.</p>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19592</link>
		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also really awkward when people in the ward are doing &quot;borderline&quot; inappropriate stuff and then seek out my husband&#039;s seal of approval.  I mean, he could care less whether people are watching R-rated movies on their own, but if they come and ask him if it&#039;s cool to organize an EQ activity around going to an R-rated movie, he has to play the prude and tell them he thinks it&#039;s not such a bright idea.  Otherwise everyone would be saying that the bish gave the A.O.K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also really awkward when people in the ward are doing &#8220;borderline&#8221; inappropriate stuff and then seek out my husband&#8217;s seal of approval.  I mean, he could care less whether people are watching R-rated movies on their own, but if they come and ask him if it&#8217;s cool to organize an EQ activity around going to an R-rated movie, he has to play the prude and tell them he thinks it&#8217;s not such a bright idea.  Otherwise everyone would be saying that the bish gave the A.O.K.</p>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19590</link>
		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband struggles with this, too.  There have been some touchy situations in the past where he has had to have a &quot;discussion&quot; with some of his friends about their church responsibilities.  Very awkward at the time, but I think they all felt fine about it afterwards.

One trick that sometimes works is to have another member of the bishopric or organization presidency do your dirty work for you.  Then if your friend comes to you afterwards you can say that you asked the other person to do it because you thought the other leader needed the experience as a &quot;training&quot; opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband struggles with this, too.  There have been some touchy situations in the past where he has had to have a &#8220;discussion&#8221; with some of his friends about their church responsibilities.  Very awkward at the time, but I think they all felt fine about it afterwards.</p>
<p>One trick that sometimes works is to have another member of the bishopric or organization presidency do your dirty work for you.  Then if your friend comes to you afterwards you can say that you asked the other person to do it because you thought the other leader needed the experience as a &#8220;training&#8221; opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Tatiana</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19551</link>
		<dc:creator>Tatiana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the latest logo!  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the latest logo!  =)</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19547</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see right through this one, Rusty. You’re just trying to pretend that it’s not &lt;em&gt;awesome&lt;/em&gt; to have power and authority over other people so that they won’t covet (and thus threaten) your power. Very convenient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see right through this one, Rusty. You’re just trying to pretend that it’s not <em>awesome</em> to have power and authority over other people so that they won’t covet (and thus threaten) your power. Very convenient.</p>
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		<title>By: John Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19542</link>
		<dc:creator>John Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep the new Manhattan-themed landing-page artwork.  It&#039;s clever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep the new Manhattan-themed landing-page artwork.  It&#8217;s clever.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan M</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=577&#038;cpage=1#comment-19538</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our previous bishop used to go hang out in the nursery and primary for a bit every Sunday. I think it was his escape from all the trauma he had to deal with from the adults.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our previous bishop used to go hang out in the nursery and primary for a bit every Sunday. I think it was his escape from all the trauma he had to deal with from the adults.</p>
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