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		<title>By: Raizinbrant</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-23672</link>
		<dc:creator>Raizinbrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 03:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m wrong here, but I don&#039;t think anyone should feel bad for this movie&#039;s failure.  The directors are enemies of the church, therefore, they are enemies of the Lord.  Don&#039;t we &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; the enemies of the Lord to fail?  We should love them, but we should also be happy that they didn&#039;t succeed in getting their message to many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m wrong here, but I don&#8217;t think anyone should feel bad for this movie&#8217;s failure.  The directors are enemies of the church, therefore, they are enemies of the Lord.  Don&#8217;t we <em>want</em> the enemies of the Lord to fail?  We should love them, but we should also be happy that they didn&#8217;t succeed in getting their message to many people.</p>
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		<title>By: jjohnsen</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-23362</link>
		<dc:creator>jjohnsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I also admit to finding it just hilarious and pathetic that Carole Whang Schutter, co-writer of the film, believes that her film’s failure might have been due to covert efforts of the LDS church, which has not publicly commented on the film.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
She&#039;s right isn&#039;t she?  The Church probably is partly responsible for poor ticket sales.  Think about movies in the past that have been protested and condemned by other churches.  Don&#039;t you think those film benefited from the extra publicity?  I&#039;m sure if the Church would have come out yelling and screaming about how horrible the film was, it might have caused more curious people to buy a ticket.

So I don&#039;t think the Church contributed to it&#039;s failure in the way she thinks it did, but they probably contributed in a different way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I also admit to finding it just hilarious and pathetic that Carole Whang Schutter, co-writer of the film, believes that her film’s failure might have been due to covert efforts of the LDS church, which has not publicly commented on the film.</p></blockquote>
<p>She&#8217;s right isn&#8217;t she?  The Church probably is partly responsible for poor ticket sales.  Think about movies in the past that have been protested and condemned by other churches.  Don&#8217;t you think those film benefited from the extra publicity?  I&#8217;m sure if the Church would have come out yelling and screaming about how horrible the film was, it might have caused more curious people to buy a ticket.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t think the Church contributed to it&#8217;s failure in the way she thinks it did, but they probably contributed in a different way.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-22998</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brigham Young said the only direction you can kick the church is upstairs.  He also said a little persecution is good for the saints, or we&#039;ll get too lazy and complacent.

Anti-mormon stuff serves some good purposes, including free advertising, which generates investigators, and even people who want to know the full or real story since the anti-stuff is so obviously slanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brigham Young said the only direction you can kick the church is upstairs.  He also said a little persecution is good for the saints, or we&#8217;ll get too lazy and complacent.</p>
<p>Anti-mormon stuff serves some good purposes, including free advertising, which generates investigators, and even people who want to know the full or real story since the anti-stuff is so obviously slanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark B.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-22828</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, if you can&#039;t reason your way out of guilt about schadenfreude for September Dawn, you need a refresher course in creative rationalization.

You&#039;re not gleeful that Cain (now, why not explore the symbolism of that name??) and Ms. Schuetter and their work are joining the grand parade in the dustbin of history.  Instead, you&#039;re grateful and glad that only a few people were affected by the movie, and thus the cause of truth marches on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, if you can&#8217;t reason your way out of guilt about schadenfreude for September Dawn, you need a refresher course in creative rationalization.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not gleeful that Cain (now, why not explore the symbolism of that name??) and Ms. Schuetter and their work are joining the grand parade in the dustbin of history.  Instead, you&#8217;re grateful and glad that only a few people were affected by the movie, and thus the cause of truth marches on!</p>
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		<title>By: fregramis</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-22745</link>
		<dc:creator>fregramis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>September Dawn.....what a stupid misleading title anyway. I mean come on...Neil Diamond almost had a lawsuit in his corner.

Why not be honest and call it &quot;The Morning a Bunch of Mormon Terrorists Butchered an Arkansas Wagon Train for Breakfast and How Brigham Young beat the Rap&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>September Dawn&#8230;..what a stupid misleading title anyway. I mean come on&#8230;Neil Diamond almost had a lawsuit in his corner.</p>
<p>Why not be honest and call it &#8220;The Morning a Bunch of Mormon Terrorists Butchered an Arkansas Wagon Train for Breakfast and How Brigham Young beat the Rap&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: TIm J.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-22738</link>
		<dc:creator>TIm J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THat is a good point, arJ.  I still remember having to &quot;sacar dudas&quot; from an investigator after she saw the famous CHarles Bronson movie &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095626/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Messenger of Death&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THat is a good point, arJ.  I still remember having to &#8220;sacar dudas&#8221; from an investigator after she saw the famous CHarles Bronson movie <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095626/" rel="nofollow">Messenger of Death</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-22735</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a random John,

Good point. That&#039;s a sad reality I hope is kept to a minimum by foreign theater owners realizing how bad it will do in their buildings but I can see it somehow getting into the hands of some son of mine&#039;s investigator right before they get baptized the way Godmakers got in the hands of my investigators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a random John,</p>
<p>Good point. That&#8217;s a sad reality I hope is kept to a minimum by foreign theater owners realizing how bad it will do in their buildings but I can see it somehow getting into the hands of some son of mine&#8217;s investigator right before they get baptized the way Godmakers got in the hands of my investigators.</p>
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		<title>By: a random John</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-22731</link>
		<dc:creator>a random John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The filmmakers will have the last laugh.  This thing will play in poorly dubbed reruns in the developing world for at least the next 20 years.  It will do real harm despite the fact that it has no audience in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The filmmakers will have the last laugh.  This thing will play in poorly dubbed reruns in the developing world for at least the next 20 years.  It will do real harm despite the fact that it has no audience in the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Lamonte</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-22725</link>
		<dc:creator>Lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t know the details of MMM but I know it was a tragic mistake that should not have happened.  I&#039;m glad when the church is open and honest about our past history - the good and the bad - but I don&#039;t think ANYONE should be able to isolate a discussion about MMM without acknowledging Hans Mill, The Extermination Order of Governor Boggs and the 6000 saints who died on the trail to Utah because our government failed to uphold their rights to practice their relgion - not to mention the countless other injustices perpetrated on the Saints from the beginnings of the church.  I&#039;m not suggesting that any of those injustices should excuse MMM, I&#039;m just saying, for the sake of fairness, that the discussion should include the entire hitory or it shouldn&#039;t be discussed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know the details of MMM but I know it was a tragic mistake that should not have happened.  I&#8217;m glad when the church is open and honest about our past history &#8211; the good and the bad &#8211; but I don&#8217;t think ANYONE should be able to isolate a discussion about MMM without acknowledging Hans Mill, The Extermination Order of Governor Boggs and the 6000 saints who died on the trail to Utah because our government failed to uphold their rights to practice their relgion &#8211; not to mention the countless other injustices perpetrated on the Saints from the beginnings of the church.  I&#8217;m not suggesting that any of those injustices should excuse MMM, I&#8217;m just saying, for the sake of fairness, that the discussion should include the entire hitory or it shouldn&#8217;t be discussed.</p>
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		<title>By: john f.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=626&#038;cpage=1#comment-22721</link>
		<dc:creator>john f.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess 3:10 to Yuma will be the way to go for Westerns this fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess 3:10 to Yuma will be the way to go for Westerns this fall.</p>
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