Comments on: Whom Do We Worship Anyway? http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637 Tue, 23 Apr 2013 04:57:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Noah Vail http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-25092 Noah Vail Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:34:12 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-25092 When Christ comes to this Earth, I will fall down and worship at His feet. I will pour out my soul unto Him and give every scrap of love this pitiful being can muster. I will do so without hesitation, without thinking, without remembering who I might have decided to worship at an earlier time. I will be unable to do otherwise. NV When Christ comes to this Earth, I will fall down and worship at His feet. I will pour out my soul unto Him and give every scrap of love this pitiful being can muster. I will do so without hesitation, without thinking, without remembering who I might have decided to worship at an earlier time.

I will be unable to do otherwise.

NV

]]> By: Elyse http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-24899 Elyse Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:31:22 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-24899 Seth, this is completely unrelated to this thread, but this being your most recent post, is my first attempt at getting some information I hope you will be so kind as to give me. In my next step, I google you. I followed a link on a comment you made on Millenial Star to get here. You refered to the quote by Neal Maxwell "if you do not choose the kingdom of Heaven first, it will ultimately make little difference what you chose instead" in a correction of someone misquoting and misusing his words. I have been looking for the exact quote and it's source for a while. Would you be so kind as to tell me where he said it? And last but not least, I am so glad to have found this blog, it is, to say the least, a breath of fresh air. Seth, this is completely unrelated to this thread, but this being your most recent post, is my first attempt at getting some information I hope you will be so kind as to give me. In my next step, I google you.

I followed a link on a comment you made on Millenial Star to get here. You refered to the quote by Neal Maxwell “if you do not choose the kingdom of Heaven first, it will ultimately make little difference what you chose instead” in a correction of someone misquoting and misusing his words. I have been looking for the exact quote and it’s source for a while. Would you be so kind as to tell me where he said it?

And last but not least, I am so glad to have found this blog, it is, to say the least, a breath of fresh air.

]]> By: Mark D. http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-24082 Mark D. Sat, 22 Sep 2007 05:57:41 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-24082 The question of who we pray to is pretty well established. Other than that, I think the worship question has to be answered in the affirmative for both. The doctrinal reason is: "Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen." (D&C 20:28) The question of who we pray to is pretty well established. Other than that, I think the worship question has to be answered in the affirmative for both.

The doctrinal reason is:

“Which Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God, infinite and eternal, without end. Amen.” (D&C 20:28)

]]> By: BrianJ http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-24047 BrianJ Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:34:05 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-24047 Thanks for the link, Tim. But now I'm confused: was C Jones quoting (#19) Joseph McConkie or Bruce McConkie? Either way, I don't think the talk Tim linked to (by Bruce McConkie) addresses my concern. (In fact, it only raises more questions.) Thanks for the link, Tim. But now I’m confused: was C Jones quoting (#19) Joseph McConkie or Bruce McConkie? Either way, I don’t think the talk Tim linked to (by Bruce McConkie) addresses my concern. (In fact, it only raises more questions.)

]]> By: Tim http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-24033 Tim Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:32:25 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-24033 Here is the link to the McConkie talk against having a personal relationship with Jesus: <strong>http://www.zionsbest.com/relationship.html</strong> Here is the link to the McConkie talk against having a personal relationship with Jesus:

http://www.zionsbest.com/relationship.html

]]> By: Daylan http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-24004 Daylan Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:51:04 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-24004 We worship whom we emulate, strive to become, etc. What is worship more than honoring (by attempting to become one with) the thing being worshiped? We worship whom we emulate, strive to become, etc.

What is worship more than honoring (by attempting to become one with) the thing being worshiped?

]]> By: BrianJ http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-23989 BrianJ Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:24:07 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-23989 I don't argue that Jesus always deferred to the Father. But could we also say the reverse? You know, the Father says, "This is my Beloved Son, hear him!" (not, "listen to me 'cause I'm the Father.) I'm not trying to stretch things, just to ask the question. I'm also thinking that there might be something to the way that each member of the godhead testifies of and defers to the other members. As for the McConkie talk, I'm interested to see how it deals with scriptures that I think pretty clearly point to Father AND Son worship. I don’t argue that Jesus always deferred to the Father. But could we also say the reverse? You know, the Father says, “This is my Beloved Son, hear him!” (not, “listen to me ’cause I’m the Father.) I’m not trying to stretch things, just to ask the question.

I’m also thinking that there might be something to the way that each member of the godhead testifies of and defers to the other members.

As for the McConkie talk, I’m interested to see how it deals with scriptures that I think pretty clearly point to Father AND Son worship.

]]> By: Geoff J http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-23986 Geoff J Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:35:15 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-23986 What is the supposed distinction between having a relationship with Jesus and having a relationship with the Father? Are y'all implying that it is even possible for us to have a relationship with one and not the other? What is the supposed distinction between having a relationship with Jesus and having a relationship with the Father? Are y’all implying that it is even possible for us to have a relationship with one and not the other?

]]> By: Don Clifton http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-23982 Don Clifton Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:08:07 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-23982 In the 70s there was a "thing" going around the church about worshipping Christ and our "relationship" to Christ. There was either a talk or a specific letter that was given by Bruce R. McConkie that made it very clear that the object of our worship was God the Father and that we are not here to form a relationship with Christ. I'll see if I can find the talk/letter, I saved it somewhere because the explaination was excellent. In the 70s there was a “thing” going around the church about worshipping Christ and our “relationship” to Christ. There was either a talk or a specific letter that was given by Bruce R. McConkie that made it very clear that the object of our worship was God the Father and that we are not here to form a relationship with Christ. I’ll see if I can find the talk/letter, I saved it somewhere because the explaination was excellent.

]]> By: C Jones http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=637&cpage=1#comment-23976 C Jones Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:32:22 +0000 http://www.nine-moons.com/2007/09/19/whom-do-we-worship-anyway/#comment-23976 It's just interesting that Joseph McConkie was very direct in saying that the Father is our object of our worship. In the New Testament, the Son defers to and gives all glory and honor to the Father without exception. Without diminishing the importance of the atonement, and while being supremely grateful for it, should we do anything other than what the Son did in reference to the Father? I think his crack about Baptist in garments whose religion is all about their relationship with Jesus just means that we should not let our gratitude for Christ and his atonement distract us from the ultimate object of our religion-- to return to the presence of the Father. It’s just interesting that Joseph McConkie was very direct in saying that the Father is our object of our worship.

In the New Testament, the Son defers to and gives all glory and honor to the Father without exception. Without diminishing the importance of the atonement, and while being supremely grateful for it, should we do anything other than what the Son did in reference to the Father?
I think his crack about Baptist in garments whose religion is all about their relationship with Jesus just means that we should not let our gratitude for Christ and his atonement distract us from the ultimate object of our religion– to return to the presence of the Father.

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