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		<title>By: lamonte</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-26133</link>
		<dc:creator>lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM - The HPG does more than Home Teach, arrange temple trips and attend a weekly meeting.  As home teachers, we are the ones who are assigned the single sisters in the ward (I guess you just can&#039;t trust the EQ!) and we participate in other activities along side the elders.  In my ward, High Priests have been involved as much as the Elders in orgnizing and participating in moving people in and out of the ward (I guess our backs are still holding up and those military people are sooooo experienced in moving.)  And, of course, one must be a High Priest to serve on the High Council and in the Bishopric - just to name a few.

I guess by &quot;structure&quot; I am talking about having rules that I am required to live by.  I often admire and am sometimes irritated by those who don&#039;t seem to need rules to live by or those who make a habit of not living by rules and yet still find success and recognition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM &#8211; The HPG does more than Home Teach, arrange temple trips and attend a weekly meeting.  As home teachers, we are the ones who are assigned the single sisters in the ward (I guess you just can&#8217;t trust the EQ!) and we participate in other activities along side the elders.  In my ward, High Priests have been involved as much as the Elders in orgnizing and participating in moving people in and out of the ward (I guess our backs are still holding up and those military people are sooooo experienced in moving.)  And, of course, one must be a High Priest to serve on the High Council and in the Bishopric &#8211; just to name a few.</p>
<p>I guess by &#8220;structure&#8221; I am talking about having rules that I am required to live by.  I often admire and am sometimes irritated by those who don&#8217;t seem to need rules to live by or those who make a habit of not living by rules and yet still find success and recognition.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-26119</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My career as a grad student doing independent lab research has very much been about trying to learn to thrive and be productive without much outside impetus.  I mean, there is some structure that acts as a motivating force, but day-to-day what I do and how much I get done is entirely up to me.  I find that I&#039;m more productive when I have a looming deadline, like an annual progress review, and I tend to flounder a bit when the only consequence for my floundering will be that I don&#039;t make progress.  My boss isn&#039;t going to get on my case.  Day-to-day, nobody will notice if I&#039;m slacking.  But a little bit of slacking each day results in noticeable lack of production in the long-term.  Sometimes I&#039;m gung-ho and get a lot done and sometimes I waste time reading Nine Moons.

Besides structure, another thing that helps me work effectively is a feeling of accomplishment, which can be hard to come by when you&#039;re doing biological research.  A lot of the time it just feels like you&#039;re spinning your wheels.  It&#039;s frustrating.

At the same time, it&#039;s a good opportunity to learn to work hard and effectively in the absense of structure and measurable progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My career as a grad student doing independent lab research has very much been about trying to learn to thrive and be productive without much outside impetus.  I mean, there is some structure that acts as a motivating force, but day-to-day what I do and how much I get done is entirely up to me.  I find that I&#8217;m more productive when I have a looming deadline, like an annual progress review, and I tend to flounder a bit when the only consequence for my floundering will be that I don&#8217;t make progress.  My boss isn&#8217;t going to get on my case.  Day-to-day, nobody will notice if I&#8217;m slacking.  But a little bit of slacking each day results in noticeable lack of production in the long-term.  Sometimes I&#8217;m gung-ho and get a lot done and sometimes I waste time reading Nine Moons.</p>
<p>Besides structure, another thing that helps me work effectively is a feeling of accomplishment, which can be hard to come by when you&#8217;re doing biological research.  A lot of the time it just feels like you&#8217;re spinning your wheels.  It&#8217;s frustrating.</p>
<p>At the same time, it&#8217;s a good opportunity to learn to work hard and effectively in the absense of structure and measurable progress.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-26109</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lamonte,

I find it curious that in your quest for structure, you fail to apply it in the definition of the very thing you seek more structure from. :-)

I have often been confused at what the purpose of the HPG really is in the ward, other than proxy representation for the stake presidency.  It just seems like an org unit that wasn&#039;t really well thought out.  It&#039;s trying to be a presidency, without the authority that a presidency carries.

Would I be off base in suggesting that all you do is organize home teaching and temple trips, and have a lesson once a week?

Anyway... Back to your question.  I crave structure, definition, and order.  I like a predictable, comfortable framework that I can rely on.  If HIS is a house of order, how can it be any other way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lamonte,</p>
<p>I find it curious that in your quest for structure, you fail to apply it in the definition of the very thing you seek more structure from. :-)</p>
<p>I have often been confused at what the purpose of the HPG really is in the ward, other than proxy representation for the stake presidency.  It just seems like an org unit that wasn&#8217;t really well thought out.  It&#8217;s trying to be a presidency, without the authority that a presidency carries.</p>
<p>Would I be off base in suggesting that all you do is organize home teaching and temple trips, and have a lesson once a week?</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230; Back to your question.  I crave structure, definition, and order.  I like a predictable, comfortable framework that I can rely on.  If HIS is a house of order, how can it be any other way?</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-25991</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it a cop out for me to say i need guidance more than structure? I guess either one falls under accountability to someone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a cop out for me to say i need guidance more than structure? I guess either one falls under accountability to someone.</p>
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		<title>By: Lamonte</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-25971</link>
		<dc:creator>Lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM - Thanks for being nitpicky! ;-)  Does that comment mean you have structure in your life?  Perhaps too much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM &#8211; Thanks for being nitpicky! ;-)  Does that comment mean you have structure in your life?  Perhaps too much?</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-25970</link>
		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When we were first called as a presidency&lt;/blockquote&gt;

HPGL&#039;s aren&#039;t in a presidency.  The presidency of the HPG is the Stake Presidency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When we were first called as a presidency</p></blockquote>
<p>HPGL&#8217;s aren&#8217;t in a presidency.  The presidency of the HPG is the Stake Presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-25966</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and incidentally, I&#039;m off to weekly scripture study at a friend&#039;s house. See? Another personal thing I need to be held accountable for. ~sigh~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and incidentally, I&#8217;m off to weekly scripture study at a friend&#8217;s house. See? Another personal thing I need to be held accountable for. ~sigh~</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-25965</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow, I need structure. 

I&#039;ve gotten better at being more spontaneous and I worry less (which I owe to my husband&#039;s personality), but I still need some structure --puncuality and responsibility also fit nicely in there. 

But just like Susan, I usually have to be held accountable by someone else. I run 4 miles every morning (okay, most mornings), but only because my friend goes with me. My house stays clean most of the time --but only because I teach piano lessons, and I want to have some kind of professionalism when they arrive. It&#039;s funny how divided I feel in the &quot;structure&quot; respect, because honestly, when it comes to church things (meetings, practices, etc.) I usually don&#039;t need to report to somebody to get it done. But if it&#039;s personal (like housework and exercise), I do. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow, I need structure. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten better at being more spontaneous and I worry less (which I owe to my husband&#8217;s personality), but I still need some structure &#8211;puncuality and responsibility also fit nicely in there. </p>
<p>But just like Susan, I usually have to be held accountable by someone else. I run 4 miles every morning (okay, most mornings), but only because my friend goes with me. My house stays clean most of the time &#8211;but only because I teach piano lessons, and I want to have some kind of professionalism when they arrive. It&#8217;s funny how divided I feel in the &#8220;structure&#8221; respect, because honestly, when it comes to church things (meetings, practices, etc.) I usually don&#8217;t need to report to somebody to get it done. But if it&#8217;s personal (like housework and exercise), I do. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt W.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-25963</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like a true Prima Donna, I need structure, but I have to feel like it is the structure I have established...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like a true Prima Donna, I need structure, but I have to feel like it is the structure I have established&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Susan M</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=679&#038;cpage=1#comment-25962</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, absolutely, and I&#039;m not capable of creating my own structure. I was worried when I recently switched to working freelance at home that I&#039;d crash and burn with no structure at all. I&#039;m doing ok with my freelance work, but other stuff...housework, etc, not as good as I could be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, absolutely, and I&#8217;m not capable of creating my own structure. I was worried when I recently switched to working freelance at home that I&#8217;d crash and burn with no structure at all. I&#8217;m doing ok with my freelance work, but other stuff&#8230;housework, etc, not as good as I could be.</p>
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