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		<title>By: lamonte</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-32133</link>
		<dc:creator>lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steffielynn - &quot;It is freedom that all humans are intitled to, and my prayer is that all will have it!&quot;

The perfect thought for the Christmas season.  My prayers this weekend will include your husband and your family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steffielynn &#8211; &#8220;It is freedom that all humans are intitled to, and my prayer is that all will have it!&#8221;</p>
<p>The perfect thought for the Christmas season.  My prayers this weekend will include your husband and your family.</p>
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		<title>By: steffielynn</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-32099</link>
		<dc:creator>steffielynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lamonte, I did not mean to steer away from the original point of your post, and I certainly do not think that the Iraq war is all peachy and good.  It&#039;s a war, death and distruction are everywhere, and it&#039;s awful and sad! 

 I am so worried about my husband and miss him terribly, there are days when I can hardly get out of bed.  And it is so hard on our children, they need their father!  When we talk on the phone I can here the sirens and the mortars that are aimed at him.  But I believe in what he is doing, I believe the outcome will be good!  I cannot understand how people could think that the Iraqi&#039;s were better off under Saddam!  There have been mistakes, and I think that the war could be handled better, but I believe that in 20 years we will see a free and prosperous Iraq, I believe that the Gospel will reach these people, I even think about how amazing it would be if my son was a missionary in the very place his dad was at war.  It is freedom that all humans are intitled to, and my prayer is that all will have it!

Sorry I went off again :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lamonte, I did not mean to steer away from the original point of your post, and I certainly do not think that the Iraq war is all peachy and good.  It&#8217;s a war, death and distruction are everywhere, and it&#8217;s awful and sad! </p>
<p> I am so worried about my husband and miss him terribly, there are days when I can hardly get out of bed.  And it is so hard on our children, they need their father!  When we talk on the phone I can here the sirens and the mortars that are aimed at him.  But I believe in what he is doing, I believe the outcome will be good!  I cannot understand how people could think that the Iraqi&#8217;s were better off under Saddam!  There have been mistakes, and I think that the war could be handled better, but I believe that in 20 years we will see a free and prosperous Iraq, I believe that the Gospel will reach these people, I even think about how amazing it would be if my son was a missionary in the very place his dad was at war.  It is freedom that all humans are intitled to, and my prayer is that all will have it!</p>
<p>Sorry I went off again :)</p>
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		<title>By: lamonte</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-32098</link>
		<dc:creator>lamonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems our discussion has strayed away from originaql intent of this post.  That&#039;s OK because it is always good to promote dialogue about important issues.  Can I just make a few comments in relation to the comments above?

1.  I haven&#039;t had a chance to read the speech nor did I see it but from all the commentary made since the speech it seems that Mitt did a pretty good job of explaining how religion informs his personal philosphy and his political beliefs and his sense of patriotism.  I have heard criticism that he said some thing like &quot;freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom.&quot;  I think I agree with him but I see the other side of that statement as well.

2.  The War in Iraq is certainly one of the most devisive issues to face the country in decades.  I was a youth during the Vietnam War and I while there was great division among the citizens I don&#039;t remember it being this devisive.  Maybe that is just convenient memory of an event from the past but I believe that to be the facts.  There are those like Stephielynn who have strong feelings that our presense there is actually making a positive difference in the world and that we are doing good.  There are others who believe that our decision to attack Iraq in a preemptive war has brought on the disdain and distrust of the rest of the world.  Stephielynn&#039;s husband reports good things happening in Iraq and feels that things are better there now than under the Saddam Hussein regine.  A good friend of my son&#039;s reports just the opposite.  He has served two tours in Iraq and reports total chaos.  He has seen two of his best friends literally blown to pieces from IED and he, himself, has been seriously wounded.  Now that he is home and about to be released from the Army he fears the he, like several thousand other soldies who have been wounded and witnessed the ravages of that war, will be classified as &quot;mentally unstable&quot; before he leaves the service so that the government won&#039;t be liable for his mental counseling if he should suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.  I find that policy unconscienable for a government - a country - that pays so much lip service to &quot;Supporting the Troops&quot; to now deny basic benefits to so many who have given so much.  For me, it is indiciative of the sad path that this administration has led us down.  And so I have a serious disagreement with the picture that Stephielynn has painted but I respect her right to her opinion and I pray for the safe return oif her husband and her children&#039;s father.  

3.  And finally, despite all the things I desagre with pertaining to the current adminstration I maintain great faith in the American political process.  We have a chance every fourth year to go to the polls and elect our leaders.  We even have processes to remove them sooner if there is justification for it and enough people agree with us.  I would caution all of us to beware of everyones political agenda whether they be from the left or the right, from the crop of politicians or from the press, from the private sector or the government.  Strive to find the truth and let the guiding hand of the Holy Ghost help you make the important decisions that will be facing us all in the next year - and all the time before and after the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems our discussion has strayed away from originaql intent of this post.  That&#8217;s OK because it is always good to promote dialogue about important issues.  Can I just make a few comments in relation to the comments above?</p>
<p>1.  I haven&#8217;t had a chance to read the speech nor did I see it but from all the commentary made since the speech it seems that Mitt did a pretty good job of explaining how religion informs his personal philosphy and his political beliefs and his sense of patriotism.  I have heard criticism that he said some thing like &#8220;freedom requires religion just as religion requires freedom.&#8221;  I think I agree with him but I see the other side of that statement as well.</p>
<p>2.  The War in Iraq is certainly one of the most devisive issues to face the country in decades.  I was a youth during the Vietnam War and I while there was great division among the citizens I don&#8217;t remember it being this devisive.  Maybe that is just convenient memory of an event from the past but I believe that to be the facts.  There are those like Stephielynn who have strong feelings that our presense there is actually making a positive difference in the world and that we are doing good.  There are others who believe that our decision to attack Iraq in a preemptive war has brought on the disdain and distrust of the rest of the world.  Stephielynn&#8217;s husband reports good things happening in Iraq and feels that things are better there now than under the Saddam Hussein regine.  A good friend of my son&#8217;s reports just the opposite.  He has served two tours in Iraq and reports total chaos.  He has seen two of his best friends literally blown to pieces from IED and he, himself, has been seriously wounded.  Now that he is home and about to be released from the Army he fears the he, like several thousand other soldies who have been wounded and witnessed the ravages of that war, will be classified as &#8220;mentally unstable&#8221; before he leaves the service so that the government won&#8217;t be liable for his mental counseling if he should suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.  I find that policy unconscienable for a government &#8211; a country &#8211; that pays so much lip service to &#8220;Supporting the Troops&#8221; to now deny basic benefits to so many who have given so much.  For me, it is indiciative of the sad path that this administration has led us down.  And so I have a serious disagreement with the picture that Stephielynn has painted but I respect her right to her opinion and I pray for the safe return oif her husband and her children&#8217;s father.  </p>
<p>3.  And finally, despite all the things I desagre with pertaining to the current adminstration I maintain great faith in the American political process.  We have a chance every fourth year to go to the polls and elect our leaders.  We even have processes to remove them sooner if there is justification for it and enough people agree with us.  I would caution all of us to beware of everyones political agenda whether they be from the left or the right, from the crop of politicians or from the press, from the private sector or the government.  Strive to find the truth and let the guiding hand of the Holy Ghost help you make the important decisions that will be facing us all in the next year &#8211; and all the time before and after the next election.</p>
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		<title>By: cj douglass</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-31945</link>
		<dc:creator>cj douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>steffelynn,
You&#039;re right, its hard to argue with those who have first hand knowledge of the situation over there. But if the Iraqi people are so much better off, I have a hard time seeing why over 4 million of them have fled their homes and are now either internally displaced or immigrants to other, safer countries. We&#039;re comparing two evils here. I happen to think the Saddam evil was much better for the Iraqis and US. But lets not get into a pissing contest. I can agree to disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steffelynn,<br />
You&#8217;re right, its hard to argue with those who have first hand knowledge of the situation over there. But if the Iraqi people are so much better off, I have a hard time seeing why over 4 million of them have fled their homes and are now either internally displaced or immigrants to other, safer countries. We&#8217;re comparing two evils here. I happen to think the Saddam evil was much better for the Iraqis and US. But lets not get into a pissing contest. I can agree to disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: steffielynn</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-31929</link>
		<dc:creator>steffielynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm are you guys missing the part where I said my husband has been in Iraq for 3 years?  I do not have first hand knowledge, but he does.  He sees it EVERYDAY, and finds it sickening that the media portrays the war the way they do.  I am not being influenced by the government, my influence is my husband, who is THERE!  There was already a war going on before we got there. My husband tells me the stories of the mass graves found, of the women and children that were killed by Sadam. My husband attends church with Iraqi&#039;s who are so grateful because they now have the ability to go to the church of their choosing!  I know that freedom is not free, and I appreciate those who are willing to risk there own lives so that others may live!


And I just watched Romney&#039;s speech, He ROCKED it!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm are you guys missing the part where I said my husband has been in Iraq for 3 years?  I do not have first hand knowledge, but he does.  He sees it EVERYDAY, and finds it sickening that the media portrays the war the way they do.  I am not being influenced by the government, my influence is my husband, who is THERE!  There was already a war going on before we got there. My husband tells me the stories of the mass graves found, of the women and children that were killed by Sadam. My husband attends church with Iraqi&#8217;s who are so grateful because they now have the ability to go to the church of their choosing!  I know that freedom is not free, and I appreciate those who are willing to risk there own lives so that others may live!</p>
<p>And I just watched Romney&#8217;s speech, He ROCKED it!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: cj douglass</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-31926</link>
		<dc:creator>cj douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea that we are safer now that Iraq is in civil war and a heavy enfiltration of Al Queda (that was non existent under Saddam) is highly laughable.......But I appreciate your enthusiasm for Romney to do well. And I certainly appreciate the sacrifice our service men and women and their families make. I only wish your integrity was not so often betrayed by our governement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that we are safer now that Iraq is in civil war and a heavy enfiltration of Al Queda (that was non existent under Saddam) is highly laughable&#8230;&#8230;.But I appreciate your enthusiasm for Romney to do well. And I certainly appreciate the sacrifice our service men and women and their families make. I only wish your integrity was not so often betrayed by our governement.</p>
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		<title>By: steffielynn</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-31916</link>
		<dc:creator>steffielynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not followed blindly, My husband has been in Iraq for 3 years, I&#039;m no expert, but I do know what has happened and IS happening.  And America is not &quot;war worshipping&quot;  That is a sorry statement.  The world IS safer, and if you don&#039;t think so then maybe you are the one who is blind.  I don&#039;t LIKE war, it&#039;s awful, and I prefer to have my husband at home with me raising our two children and being a nice normal family.  The sacrifices that they make for people are more then many will ever understand.  War is necessary when there are people who want to destroy you.  And I am beyond thankful that I live in a country that is strong, and safe because of the people who have fought and continue to fight for us.

Lucky for all of us we live in a free country (because of those who have fought for that right) and we are all allowed to have our own opinions!!!!

Back to topic though, I am anxious to hear Romney And I will be praying for him! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not followed blindly, My husband has been in Iraq for 3 years, I&#8217;m no expert, but I do know what has happened and IS happening.  And America is not &#8220;war worshipping&#8221;  That is a sorry statement.  The world IS safer, and if you don&#8217;t think so then maybe you are the one who is blind.  I don&#8217;t LIKE war, it&#8217;s awful, and I prefer to have my husband at home with me raising our two children and being a nice normal family.  The sacrifices that they make for people are more then many will ever understand.  War is necessary when there are people who want to destroy you.  And I am beyond thankful that I live in a country that is strong, and safe because of the people who have fought and continue to fight for us.</p>
<p>Lucky for all of us we live in a free country (because of those who have fought for that right) and we are all allowed to have our own opinions!!!!</p>
<p>Back to topic though, I am anxious to hear Romney And I will be praying for him! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-31858</link>
		<dc:creator>Manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the war is based on a platform of lies built by corrupt people who use fear to manipulate people (like the nonsense motto: Iraq war makes USA safer) and when you follow blindly just because of the war worshiping American culture, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the war is based on a platform of lies built by corrupt people who use fear to manipulate people (like the nonsense motto: Iraq war makes USA safer) and when you follow blindly just because of the war worshiping American culture, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: steffielynn</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-31803</link>
		<dc:creator>steffielynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Romney is awesome, but that&#039;s just my opinion.  If he is not asking for inspiration, then I have no problem asking FOR him.  I think this is much bigger then the presidency, I think this will open the door for better conversations about the LDS faith!  I&#039;m excited for that!  

On another note, my hubby is in Iraq and I want him safe and home, BUT I also want my children to be safe.  There are dangerous people that our boys are keeping out of our country.  I support the war, and any war to come that will keep my kids safe.  Does that make me a war monger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Romney is awesome, but that&#8217;s just my opinion.  If he is not asking for inspiration, then I have no problem asking FOR him.  I think this is much bigger then the presidency, I think this will open the door for better conversations about the LDS faith!  I&#8217;m excited for that!  </p>
<p>On another note, my hubby is in Iraq and I want him safe and home, BUT I also want my children to be safe.  There are dangerous people that our boys are keeping out of our country.  I support the war, and any war to come that will keep my kids safe.  Does that make me a war monger?</p>
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		<title>By: aerin</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=713&#038;cpage=1#comment-31751</link>
		<dc:creator>aerin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies for the duplicate.</description>
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