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		<description>...I know this is beside the point of you question, but Joseph and Emma did recieve the Fullness of the Priesthood.

As to your question: I find it helpful to quallify dissenting remarks with phrases such as, &quot;great indaviduals (including apostles) have disagreed on this topic, but...&quot; or &quot;there is actually a fair amount of dversity in oppinion on this topic. Currently, the most common perspective is...&quot;
J. Stapley &#124; Email &#124; Homepage &#124; 03.21.05 - 1:23 am &#124; #

It depends on the topic. I&#039;ve shot things down before, but most often I let them go. Or I add one of Stapley&#039;s clarifying phrases that what the teacher has said is not on official position or the unanimous opinion of the apostles.
Ben S. &#124; Email &#124; Homepage &#124; 03.21.05 - 10:18 am &#124; #

I think it is always our responsibility to clarify doctrine, false rumors, and speculations. It is important to do it in a kind non-offensive way. And make sure you know your sources and that you are correct. 

Sometimes I do let things pass because it&#039;s no big deal anyway. And heaven forbid, sometimes I&#039;ve even said things that weren&#039;t correct and been corrected. Don&#039;t be offended when we are wrong either.
Don &#124; Email &#124; Homepage &#124; 03.21.05 - 2:02 pm &#124; #

J. Stapley,
I like that. I&#039;ll have to use it. How about things you know are just plain wrong and there isn&#039;t any controversy...they just got it wrong? Any ideas for that?
Don,
I thought you were NEVER wrong!! Well, that changes EVERYthing...
Bret &#124; Email &#124; Homepage &#124; 03.22.05 - 12:18 am &#124; #

Ah...the patently false doctrine. Maybe you could go for a, &quot;Slow down there Tex!&quot;.

But seriously, maybe a, &quot;Interestingly, while similar ideas have floated around from time to time, the church has been pretty unequivical in stating that...&quot;

I have actually come to enjoy running interference to a couple characters in some of the wards I have been in...or maybe they were running interference to me?
J. Stapley &#124; Email &#124; Homepage &#124; 03.22.05 - 1:18 am &#124; #

Bret,

In the specific case you describe not interrupting sounds like the right solution to me. The teacher slipped in the tidbit during a closing comment and wrapped things up. I can assure you that most people were vegging (or is it veg-ing?) anyway so no souls were put in jeopardy. In those cases I usually approach the teacher afterwards and say something like &quot;I have read something on this subject. why have you come to the conclusion that...&quot;
Geoff Johnston &#124; Email &#124; Homepage &#124; 03.22.05 - 12:24 pm &#124; #

This is a great topic. What happens if the questionable statement is about politics rather than religion? For example, in Relief Society shortly after the 1992 election, I remember our president getting up and &quot;bearing her testimony&quot; that she was so glad that Bill Clinton came in third in Utah (after Bush I and Ross Perot). She then essentially stated that Republicans were more spiritually grounded than Democrats. 

I&#039;ve also experienced similar discomfort listening to the political discussions surrounding gay marriage. Our bishop actually encouraged us from the pulpit to participate in an anti-gay marriage rally at the Capitol directly after church that Sunday.

Officially, I think the Church states that it is politically-neutral, but when the Church takes a stand on gay marriage or the ERA or the like, if you don&#039;t agree with this political stand, you&#039;re seen as less committed. 

Anyway, I guess I&#039;m wondering if any of you have had similar experiences (i.e, people expressing political opinions, etc. in Church), and if you have a handy, tactful response.
Tess &#124; Email &#124; Homepage &#124; 03.25.05 - 12:19 pm &#124; #

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I know this is beside the point of you question, but Joseph and Emma did recieve the Fullness of the Priesthood.</p>
<p>As to your question: I find it helpful to quallify dissenting remarks with phrases such as, &#8220;great indaviduals (including apostles) have disagreed on this topic, but&#8230;&#8221; or &#8220;there is actually a fair amount of dversity in oppinion on this topic. Currently, the most common perspective is&#8230;&#8221;<br />
J. Stapley | Email | Homepage | 03.21.05 &#8211; 1:23 am | #</p>
<p>It depends on the topic. I&#8217;ve shot things down before, but most often I let them go. Or I add one of Stapley&#8217;s clarifying phrases that what the teacher has said is not on official position or the unanimous opinion of the apostles.<br />
Ben S. | Email | Homepage | 03.21.05 &#8211; 10:18 am | #</p>
<p>I think it is always our responsibility to clarify doctrine, false rumors, and speculations. It is important to do it in a kind non-offensive way. And make sure you know your sources and that you are correct. </p>
<p>Sometimes I do let things pass because it&#8217;s no big deal anyway. And heaven forbid, sometimes I&#8217;ve even said things that weren&#8217;t correct and been corrected. Don&#8217;t be offended when we are wrong either.<br />
Don | Email | Homepage | 03.21.05 &#8211; 2:02 pm | #</p>
<p>J. Stapley,<br />
I like that. I&#8217;ll have to use it. How about things you know are just plain wrong and there isn&#8217;t any controversy&#8230;they just got it wrong? Any ideas for that?<br />
Don,<br />
I thought you were NEVER wrong!! Well, that changes EVERYthing&#8230;<br />
Bret | Email | Homepage | 03.22.05 &#8211; 12:18 am | #</p>
<p>Ah&#8230;the patently false doctrine. Maybe you could go for a, &#8220;Slow down there Tex!&#8221;.</p>
<p>But seriously, maybe a, &#8220;Interestingly, while similar ideas have floated around from time to time, the church has been pretty unequivical in stating that&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I have actually come to enjoy running interference to a couple characters in some of the wards I have been in&#8230;or maybe they were running interference to me?<br />
J. Stapley | Email | Homepage | 03.22.05 &#8211; 1:18 am | #</p>
<p>Bret,</p>
<p>In the specific case you describe not interrupting sounds like the right solution to me. The teacher slipped in the tidbit during a closing comment and wrapped things up. I can assure you that most people were vegging (or is it veg-ing?) anyway so no souls were put in jeopardy. In those cases I usually approach the teacher afterwards and say something like &#8220;I have read something on this subject. why have you come to the conclusion that&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Geoff Johnston | Email | Homepage | 03.22.05 &#8211; 12:24 pm | #</p>
<p>This is a great topic. What happens if the questionable statement is about politics rather than religion? For example, in Relief Society shortly after the 1992 election, I remember our president getting up and &#8220;bearing her testimony&#8221; that she was so glad that Bill Clinton came in third in Utah (after Bush I and Ross Perot). She then essentially stated that Republicans were more spiritually grounded than Democrats. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also experienced similar discomfort listening to the political discussions surrounding gay marriage. Our bishop actually encouraged us from the pulpit to participate in an anti-gay marriage rally at the Capitol directly after church that Sunday.</p>
<p>Officially, I think the Church states that it is politically-neutral, but when the Church takes a stand on gay marriage or the ERA or the like, if you don&#8217;t agree with this political stand, you&#8217;re seen as less committed. </p>
<p>Anyway, I guess I&#8217;m wondering if any of you have had similar experiences (i.e, people expressing political opinions, etc. in Church), and if you have a handy, tactful response.<br />
Tess | Email | Homepage | 03.25.05 &#8211; 12:19 pm | #</p>
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