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		<title>By: A Mormon and an Evangelical in Conversation: Idaho Falls Edition &#124; Times &#38; Seasons</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Mormon and an Evangelical in Conversation: Idaho Falls Edition &#124; Times &#38; Seasons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 22:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Seth at Nine Moon posted reflections on a similar Johnson-Millet event held in Denver in 2008.  Be the first to like. Like Unlike  Be Sociable, Share!           [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan "Skip" Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=879&#038;cpage=1#comment-84125</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan "Skip" Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to come late to the coversation, but I wanted to say that I agree with Aaron B.  I also attended a So Cal version of this event (in 2005 I believe), and literally the first 70 of the 90 minutes was taken up by jokes and smiles and guffaws about how amazing it was to have a an Evangelical preacher and a Mormon professor and all these Mormons and Evangelicals together in one room (the stake center was filled to the back, probably 800 people attended, including probably 200 or so Eveangelicals).  I&#039;m glad to know the era of self-congratulation may be over, and that substantive conversations may be happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to come late to the coversation, but I wanted to say that I agree with Aaron B.  I also attended a So Cal version of this event (in 2005 I believe), and literally the first 70 of the 90 minutes was taken up by jokes and smiles and guffaws about how amazing it was to have a an Evangelical preacher and a Mormon professor and all these Mormons and Evangelicals together in one room (the stake center was filled to the back, probably 800 people attended, including probably 200 or so Eveangelicals).  I&#8217;m glad to know the era of self-congratulation may be over, and that substantive conversations may be happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 20:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the recap, Seth.  Sounds like an interesting discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recap, Seth.  Sounds like an interesting discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=879&#038;cpage=1#comment-71414</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bridget. Like I said, I don&#039;t really think I gave Greg an entirely fair hearing because I was so focused on what Millet had to say. Maybe you could correct that if you ever get a chance to attend one of these.

Kent, on your question of &quot;Evangelical Mormon&quot; you might find a few of the reviews of &quot;How Wide the Divide?&quot; pretty relevant (some of them directly tackle the question of whether Robinson makes too many concessions to Evangelicalism). Here&#039;s the link to a blog post compiling them:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://summatheologica.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/to-how-wide-the-divide-graduates/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;To How Wide the Divide Graduates&lt;/a&gt;

I&#039;d actually recommend this resource to anyone who is interested in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bridget. Like I said, I don&#8217;t really think I gave Greg an entirely fair hearing because I was so focused on what Millet had to say. Maybe you could correct that if you ever get a chance to attend one of these.</p>
<p>Kent, on your question of &#8220;Evangelical Mormon&#8221; you might find a few of the reviews of &#8220;How Wide the Divide?&#8221; pretty relevant (some of them directly tackle the question of whether Robinson makes too many concessions to Evangelicalism). Here&#8217;s the link to a blog post compiling them:</p>
<p><a href="http://summatheologica.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/to-how-wide-the-divide-graduates/" rel="nofollow">To How Wide the Divide Graduates</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d actually recommend this resource to anyone who is interested in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Jack Meyers</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=879&#038;cpage=1#comment-71384</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Jack Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this recap Seth. Very interesting, and you bring up some ways of looking at LDS teachings on salvation &amp; exaltation that I had never thought of before. It also reminds me of how much I miss Greg. I hope he does one of these conferences in the Seattle area sometime so I can attend. 

@ #12 Kent M: I had a professor in the religion department at BYU who had attended Young Life and Baptist youth groups as a teenager (though he was raised LDS) and was regularly tempering his teachings with evangelical commentaries and views of things. I called him my Evangelical Mormon friend... so, are you an evangelical Mormon? You very well could be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this recap Seth. Very interesting, and you bring up some ways of looking at LDS teachings on salvation &amp; exaltation that I had never thought of before. It also reminds me of how much I miss Greg. I hope he does one of these conferences in the Seattle area sometime so I can attend. </p>
<p>@ #12 Kent M: I had a professor in the religion department at BYU who had attended Young Life and Baptist youth groups as a teenager (though he was raised LDS) and was regularly tempering his teachings with evangelical commentaries and views of things. I called him my Evangelical Mormon friend&#8230; so, are you an evangelical Mormon? You very well could be.</p>
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		<title>By: LibbyAnne</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=879&#038;cpage=1#comment-71106</link>
		<dc:creator>LibbyAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to go into a Born Again Christian bookstore to talk with the owner. I enjoyed are conversations and one day he lent me a copy of one of these dialogues that had occurred at Boise State. I was so excited because I love Bob Millet and I think this is awesome!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to go into a Born Again Christian bookstore to talk with the owner. I enjoyed are conversations and one day he lent me a copy of one of these dialogues that had occurred at Boise State. I was so excited because I love Bob Millet and I think this is awesome!!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Church&#039;s PR campaign is going to do wonders in the next 12 months about teaching people that Mormons believe in Christ and this should help Romney make a run in four years. For example the new project, Reflections of Christ, is incredible. A photographer from Mesa created all these amazing photographs of scenes of Christs life. They created a DVD and a cool sounding CD to go with it. Check out their slide show on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oteno81QzzQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Church&#8217;s PR campaign is going to do wonders in the next 12 months about teaching people that Mormons believe in Christ and this should help Romney make a run in four years. For example the new project, Reflections of Christ, is incredible. A photographer from Mesa created all these amazing photographs of scenes of Christs life. They created a DVD and a cool sounding CD to go with it. Check out their slide show on Youtube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oteno81QzzQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oteno81QzzQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=879&#038;cpage=1#comment-71051</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regard to your question--I have long contended that if a person choses to disregard Christ, he can find salvation in the teletial kingdom (my reading of D&amp;C 76).  Even that comes with grace filled gifts of the creation of the spirit, creation and opportunity in this world, resurrection and creation of the kingdom of inheritance (I am sure I am missing something).  That kingdom is likened to the stars.  Accepting Christ and repentance through Christ, an easier road than paying for your own sins (D&amp;C 19), takes you to the Celestial.  A kingdom likened to the sun.  The grace of God provides the foundation.  The mercy of God builds a mansion.  We show up with a folding chair and hope to be allowed to sit in a corner.  He then gives us the house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to your question&#8211;I have long contended that if a person choses to disregard Christ, he can find salvation in the teletial kingdom (my reading of D&amp;C 76).  Even that comes with grace filled gifts of the creation of the spirit, creation and opportunity in this world, resurrection and creation of the kingdom of inheritance (I am sure I am missing something).  That kingdom is likened to the stars.  Accepting Christ and repentance through Christ, an easier road than paying for your own sins (D&amp;C 19), takes you to the Celestial.  A kingdom likened to the sun.  The grace of God provides the foundation.  The mercy of God builds a mansion.  We show up with a folding chair and hope to be allowed to sit in a corner.  He then gives us the house.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent (MC)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent (MC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth,

Regarding Salvation &amp; Exaltation: I have found it very helpful to talk about how different the expectations I have for heaven may be from those of other Christians. Without a paradigm shift, we end up speaking past each other. Mormons believe that the afterlife is full of purposeful work and that this life is training for that purposeful work. We are sent to earth to freely choose to be about God&#039;s work rather than serving selfish interests. As a result, salvation ends up being about my desire for Christ to mediate and heal my relationship with God and others whom I&#039;ve hurt (and to heal me too). Christ will save me from the pain of my fractured relationships just as quickly as I ask him to do so (as long as it is sincere and I truly give him my life). 

Salvation is not just a heavenly reward, it is to be experienced in the here-and-now; it is a state-of-being, having all of my relationships mediated through Christ (giving life to all those relationships). Kingdoms of glory are not &quot;rewards&quot; for individuals who do a good job in this life, they are representative of the state-of-being of resurrected individuals who have demonstrated trustworthiness with the gifts they have been given. In Mormonism, the priesthood is not a feather in the cap (to quote Nibley), rather it is a burden, a joyful burden which yokes us to Christ, but a burden all the same.

In the next life, God isn&#039;t going to be passing out trophies and keys to mansions, he is going to ask us to continue on the apprenticeship program we started in this life. Those who have shown themselves to be trustworthy with a few things, will be given more work to do. Exaltation is just different degrees of work and responsibility.

The way I view God&#039;s blessings is that his arms are full of gifts to give me, but I refuse to receive the gifts based on my inability to give up sin and receive his life into mine. In the afterlife we will be the one who says, &quot;This is all I can handle right now, I can&#039;t take any more glory/responsibilities.&quot; Right now you couldn&#039;t pay me enough to be the president of the U.S., I&#039;m just not ready for that kind of responsibility or power. I think the afterlife will be full of people accepting power and responsibility at very different rates.

So, am I an Evangelical Mormon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth,</p>
<p>Regarding Salvation &amp; Exaltation: I have found it very helpful to talk about how different the expectations I have for heaven may be from those of other Christians. Without a paradigm shift, we end up speaking past each other. Mormons believe that the afterlife is full of purposeful work and that this life is training for that purposeful work. We are sent to earth to freely choose to be about God&#8217;s work rather than serving selfish interests. As a result, salvation ends up being about my desire for Christ to mediate and heal my relationship with God and others whom I&#8217;ve hurt (and to heal me too). Christ will save me from the pain of my fractured relationships just as quickly as I ask him to do so (as long as it is sincere and I truly give him my life). </p>
<p>Salvation is not just a heavenly reward, it is to be experienced in the here-and-now; it is a state-of-being, having all of my relationships mediated through Christ (giving life to all those relationships). Kingdoms of glory are not &#8220;rewards&#8221; for individuals who do a good job in this life, they are representative of the state-of-being of resurrected individuals who have demonstrated trustworthiness with the gifts they have been given. In Mormonism, the priesthood is not a feather in the cap (to quote Nibley), rather it is a burden, a joyful burden which yokes us to Christ, but a burden all the same.</p>
<p>In the next life, God isn&#8217;t going to be passing out trophies and keys to mansions, he is going to ask us to continue on the apprenticeship program we started in this life. Those who have shown themselves to be trustworthy with a few things, will be given more work to do. Exaltation is just different degrees of work and responsibility.</p>
<p>The way I view God&#8217;s blessings is that his arms are full of gifts to give me, but I refuse to receive the gifts based on my inability to give up sin and receive his life into mine. In the afterlife we will be the one who says, &#8220;This is all I can handle right now, I can&#8217;t take any more glory/responsibilities.&#8221; Right now you couldn&#8217;t pay me enough to be the president of the U.S., I&#8217;m just not ready for that kind of responsibility or power. I think the afterlife will be full of people accepting power and responsibility at very different rates.</p>
<p>So, am I an Evangelical Mormon?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Mormons and Evangelicals : Mormon Metaphysics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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