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		<title>By: Zelophehad&#8217;s Daughters &#124; My Nacle Notebook 2008: Funny comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelophehad&#8217;s Daughters &#124; My Nacle Notebook 2008: Funny comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comment on Rusty’s post I Just Heard A Hilarious Joke About Prop 8 at Nine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bridget Jack Meyers</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=883&#038;cpage=1#comment-82909</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Jack Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 06:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I &lt;em&gt;hate&lt;/em&gt; echo trackbacks from updating old posts. Feel free to delete that at will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <em>hate</em> echo trackbacks from updating old posts. Feel free to delete that at will.</p>
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		<title>By: ClobberBlog &#187; Gays v. Mormons: The new Pirates v. Ninjas!</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClobberBlog &#187; Gays v. Mormons: The new Pirates v. Ninjas!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from Nine Moons has made another good point in the comments both here and there on why Mormons are bound to oppose gay marriage: The LDS view of the cosmos is not genderless, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=883&#038;cpage=1#comment-71910</link>
		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Civil Unions are a “civil institution.”

“Marriage” really shouldn’t be.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Seth, if that&#039;s the case, then why is the Church fighting over the definition?  Why don&#039;t we just take our marbles and go home?  We can marry whomever we want in our churches and temples and the civil marriages mean nothing to us, becaause they are conducted by authority we don&#039;t recognize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Civil Unions are a “civil institution.”</p>
<p>“Marriage” really shouldn’t be.</p></blockquote>
<p>Seth, if that&#8217;s the case, then why is the Church fighting over the definition?  Why don&#8217;t we just take our marbles and go home?  We can marry whomever we want in our churches and temples and the civil marriages mean nothing to us, becaause they are conducted by authority we don&#8217;t recognize.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I recently discovered that Mormons (or Mormon offshoots) aren&#039;t the only religious groups interested in polygamy.  There&#039;s a group called &quot;Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness.&quot;

If same-sex marriage is ever legalized in California, I expect this group to be next in line clamoring for their &quot;civil rights&quot; to marry whomever (and however many) they want.  http://www.uupa.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I recently discovered that Mormons (or Mormon offshoots) aren&#8217;t the only religious groups interested in polygamy.  There&#8217;s a group called &#8220;Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness.&#8221;</p>
<p>If same-sex marriage is ever legalized in California, I expect this group to be next in line clamoring for their &#8220;civil rights&#8221; to marry whomever (and however many) they want.  <a href="http://www.uupa.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.uupa.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty, 

Ouch! Thanks for putting me in my place.  Boy did I need that! Glad you could use your powers as a common judge to straighten me out. Keep up the great work you are doing on this thread of the blog.  It is very entertaining, works at placing a totally clear light on the faith and when googled allows others to see what we have to offer.

No need to ban me, I&#039;ll ban myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty, </p>
<p>Ouch! Thanks for putting me in my place.  Boy did I need that! Glad you could use your powers as a common judge to straighten me out. Keep up the great work you are doing on this thread of the blog.  It is very entertaining, works at placing a totally clear light on the faith and when googled allows others to see what we have to offer.</p>
<p>No need to ban me, I&#8217;ll ban myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookslinger</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=883&#038;cpage=1#comment-71791</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookslinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris w: &quot;I don’t know any opponents of Prop 8, or proponents of same-sex marriage, who want to force [any churches] to renounce their principles and doctrines and practices regarding homosexuality and marriage.&quot;

What about the big _internal_ fights over ordaining openly homosexual priests/ministers in various protestant churches, such as Episcopalian, etc?  Various churches are splitting up over the issue.  Isn&#039;t it logical to assume that many of those who have pushed for the ordination of openly homosexual priests/ministers are also for same-sex marriage?

Ordaining openly homosexual ministers seems to me to be radically renouncing principles and doctrines in those churches who used to call homosexual acts sinful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris w: &#8220;I don’t know any opponents of Prop 8, or proponents of same-sex marriage, who want to force [any churches] to renounce their principles and doctrines and practices regarding homosexuality and marriage.&#8221;</p>
<p>What about the big _internal_ fights over ordaining openly homosexual priests/ministers in various protestant churches, such as Episcopalian, etc?  Various churches are splitting up over the issue.  Isn&#8217;t it logical to assume that many of those who have pushed for the ordination of openly homosexual priests/ministers are also for same-sex marriage?</p>
<p>Ordaining openly homosexual ministers seems to me to be radically renouncing principles and doctrines in those churches who used to call homosexual acts sinful.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seth R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Civil Unions are a &quot;civil institution.&quot;

&quot;Marriage&quot; really shouldn&#039;t be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Civil Unions are a &#8220;civil institution.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Marriage&#8221; really shouldn&#8217;t be.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>typo correction:

&quot;...who want to force any churches to renounce...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>typo correction:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;who want to force any churches to renounce&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=883&#038;cpage=1#comment-71772</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#22--Seth R.

&lt;i&gt;That’s what they don’t get - we aren’t opposing gay marriage because it’s “weird” or “deviant” or “unconventional.” We opposed it for ingrained, and somewhat inflexible theological concerns.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, we get it.  We just don&#039;t think your theology should be the law of the land.  Given the LDS Church&#039;s history, I&#039;d think it would have concerns about that as well.  But apparently not.

I don&#039;t know any opponents of Prop 8, or proponents of same-sex marriage, who want to force church&#039;s to renounce their principles and doctrines and practices regarding homosexuality and marriage.  But if marriage is a civil institution--and it clearly is--then it ought not to be defined by anyone&#039;s theology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#22&#8211;Seth R.</p>
<p><i>That’s what they don’t get &#8211; we aren’t opposing gay marriage because it’s “weird” or “deviant” or “unconventional.” We opposed it for ingrained, and somewhat inflexible theological concerns.</i></p>
<p>Oh, we get it.  We just don&#8217;t think your theology should be the law of the land.  Given the LDS Church&#8217;s history, I&#8217;d think it would have concerns about that as well.  But apparently not.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know any opponents of Prop 8, or proponents of same-sex marriage, who want to force church&#8217;s to renounce their principles and doctrines and practices regarding homosexuality and marriage.  But if marriage is a civil institution&#8211;and it clearly is&#8211;then it ought not to be defined by anyone&#8217;s theology.</p>
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