It seems to me that all a bunch of Israelites had to do to avoid perishing from the asps’ poison was look up at a staff, trivial as that is, and a lot of them died. Because they didn’t look up at a stick??? Come on! How stupid. Right?]]>
If you have specific difficulty with things found in R-rated movies or even just want those things (for whatever reasons) out of your life, go ahead like McQ says. Give it up and you’ll be blessed for it, but don’t condemn the Nephites choose keep their weapons of war.]]>
I’d question MCQ in 12 if you’re really “feeling closer to God” by abstaining from Passion of the Christ
Yes, absolutely, if that is your goal, and you are abstaining in order to show obedience and exercise faith. I have not seen the Passion of the Christ and don’t intend to. I’m not interested in a movie that graphically shows how our Lord was tortured. It tears me up plenty just reading about it. I’m not interested in seeing anyone tortured, for that matter. I guess I go to movies for different reasons. Call me crazy.
fp, I think you have a point to some extent, but the fact is that we are not currently asked to gve up all our wealth. We are asked to give up 10% of our income and follow certain other commandments. If you want to go the extra mile and give up all your wealth, feel free to do so, and to blog about it (elsewhere), but it doesn’t mean everything short of that is trivial.
If, however, you believe that abstaining from R rated movies is one of the commandments, and that your continued non-adherance to that commandment is holding you back, then you should probably work on exercising the faith necessary to achieve obedience to that commandment. I suspect you will find that you are well-rewarded for doing so.]]>
As for the R rated thing. I figure nowadays with the intarwebs and all, there is enough information out there about any and every movie I may want to see to decide for myself whether I should see (hopefully without clouding my judgment with how much I may want to see it). I see no reason to let the MPAA be my spirituality gauge setter. That’s mine and the Spirit’s job.
Exactly. Go to http://www.screenit.com and find out everything. Since when are Christians letting hollywood buearocrats motivated by all kinds of factors decide what is and is not inappropriate to see.]]>
David, are you saying that you “know” Schindler’s List and Passion of the Christ are “bad for you” just because they are rated-R (and have material that definitely makes them earn that rating)?
I mean, I’m having a hard time saying this, but it was always my understanding that there never was any Thus Saith the Lord pronouncement on R-rated movies *precisely* because it’s not like you can paint with so broad a paintbrush to delineate between what is bad and what is good for you. The movies that are bad for you aren’t just noted by an R rating (you can find PG-13 movies that are just as bad or worse), and you can still find movies that are not damaging that are R-rating, precisely because of the things you talked about — less hindered storytelling, a graphic, but more truthful reality, etc.,
and that what I’d have to say that would be charitable on the issue. A less charitable outlook would be the echo Tim’s words in 11, and then I’d question MCQ in 12 if you’re really “feeling closer to God” by abstaining from Passion of the Christ]]>
Yes, exactly! At least that’s what I’m told by leaders and girls alike. Just date MORE! Nothing about quality as obviously ALL the girls in my ward are wonderful, amazing people and WHY are you not taking one out every weekend?
Actually, what I meant was I know I’m lazy about the whole dating scene and I need to take a more proactive approach to my love life if I’m ever to stop being a menace to society :)
As for the R rated thing. I figure nowadays with the intarwebs and all, there is enough information out there about any and every movie I may want to see to decide for myself whether I should see (hopefully without clouding my judgment with how much I may want to see it). I see no reason to let the MPAA be my spirituality gauge setter. That’s mine and the Spirit’s job.]]>
God is not a heavenly accountant ticking off your missteps.
I don’t think David is saying that at all Tim. I think David is saying that he knows he feels closer to God when he obeys his commandments and yet there are some commandments that he wilfully refuses to obey. All of us have these, because we are stubborn and stuck in our habits. Everyone has a cherished sin (some, like me, have many), something they hold back and refuse to give up and put on the altar. The New Year can be a great time to evaluate our lives to see what sins we are carefully hoarding that we could sacrifice to know God better.]]>
God is not a heavenly accountant ticking off your missteps.]]>
Intellectually, I know the damage it can cause (although Mr. Invincible, with whom I share my temporal body, knows he’s exempt from such spiritual physics), but I literally love the thrill of some of the elements only R-rated movies can provide– the jolts of graphic reality, the seemingly less hindered storytelling (Schindler’s List was rated R, as was Passion of the Christ, Terminator 2, Shawshank Redemption, Saving Private Ryan… Sleepy Hollow is the only R-rated movie I let my daughter watch because, for the life of me, I don’t know why it was rated R.). Clean Flicks are for wusses.
But watching R-rated movies, while not in the same caliber of sin as committing adultery or taking the sacrament with your left hand (yes I’m joking), it’s still doing something consciously and willfully that goes against the counsel of Church leaders and, presumably, the Lord. It’s not a “thus-sayeth-the-Lord” edict to refrain from them, but just being aware that I’m doing– loving– something that I know isn’t good for me, and that I find myself unwilling to stop, makes me feel like the rich schlub in Mark 10. Does this realization give me the resolve to repent? Hell, no.
I guess what I’m saying is, it’s not the act itself, but the informed rebellion, that troubles me. Hopefully that made sense.
And yes, Sue, fluffy novels– particularly graphic novels and those written by James Patterson or bodice busters like Garwood or Devereaux– are unpardonable sins.]]>