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		<title>By: Excuses for not blogging, part III &#171; Irresistible (Dis)Grace</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-90636</link>
		<dc:creator>Excuses for not blogging, part III &#171; Irresistible (Dis)Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] even should be democratic. Who is part of the bloggernacle? Is Seriously So Blessed part of it? Are Mormon Mommy Bloggers? Do they even participate on other non-mommy [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] even should be democratic. Who is part of the bloggernacle? Is Seriously So Blessed part of it? Are Mormon Mommy Bloggers? Do they even participate on other non-mommy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-78084</link>
		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that because you most often hear it from DKL himself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that because you most often hear it from DKL himself?</p>
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		<title>By: mfranti</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-77894</link>
		<dc:creator>mfranti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>phew!!!

i thought i might be on the short list.

dkl, the most reviled? 

it makes me giggle every time i hear it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phew!!!</p>
<p>i thought i might be on the short list.</p>
<p>dkl, the most reviled? </p>
<p>it makes me giggle every time i hear it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-77860</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mfranti,
The ones that I can think of off the top of my head are Steve EM, DKL, Kurt, gst (likening DKL unto Hitler, though it was a joke everyone refused to get...I guess it&#039;s still too soon), and I&#039;m sure there are a bunch of others. To answer jimbob&#039;s question, I think it&#039;s a matter of investment into the community that allows Steve to &quot;get away with&quot; a little more than others. There is little hesitation to ban or censor the drive-by commenters and trolls, but when someone who has been a positive contributor to (and interested in the long-term viability of) the bloggernacle, it becomes a little more difficult of a question and you allow a little more leeway. I don&#039;t know if that answers your question, but that&#039;s my impression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mfranti,<br />
The ones that I can think of off the top of my head are Steve EM, DKL, Kurt, gst (likening DKL unto Hitler, though it was a joke everyone refused to get&#8230;I guess it&#8217;s still too soon), and I&#8217;m sure there are a bunch of others. To answer jimbob&#8217;s question, I think it&#8217;s a matter of investment into the community that allows Steve to &#8220;get away with&#8221; a little more than others. There is little hesitation to ban or censor the drive-by commenters and trolls, but when someone who has been a positive contributor to (and interested in the long-term viability of) the bloggernacle, it becomes a little more difficult of a question and you allow a little more leeway. I don&#8217;t know if that answers your question, but that&#8217;s my impression.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Jack Meyers</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-77822</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Jack Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Jack!

But, not a shit. 

Or am I? 

This one will send me into at least 30 seconds of serious reflection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Jack!</p>
<p>But, not a shit. </p>
<p>Or am I? </p>
<p>This one will send me into at least 30 seconds of serious reflection.</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-77807</link>
		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Jack Shit is a friend of mine.  I&#039;m pretty sure none of you know him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Jack Shit is a friend of mine.  I&#8217;m pretty sure none of you know him.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-77768</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But if you want to remain in ignorance and also spout off about a topic on which you’re admittedly uninformed, well that’s just a bad idea.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I didn&#039;t say I was ignorant or uninformed, just that I might conform to your definition of not knowing &quot;jack shit,&quot; by which I assumed you meant not knowing as much as you, since that is almost always what people mean when they say someone doesn&#039;t know &quot;jack shit.&quot;  My interactions in the bloggernacle have been sufficient, I believe, to support my comments above, and discounting them based on my putative ignorance would probably be a mistake on your part.  I recognize, though, that my comments seem to bother you in a visceral manner (for reasons I&#039;m not quite clear on) and are not having the effect I intended, so I&#039;ve offered to drop it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But if you want to remain in ignorance and also spout off about a topic on which you’re admittedly uninformed, well that’s just a bad idea.</p></blockquote>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say I was ignorant or uninformed, just that I might conform to your definition of not knowing &#8220;jack shit,&#8221; by which I assumed you meant not knowing as much as you, since that is almost always what people mean when they say someone doesn&#8217;t know &#8220;jack shit.&#8221;  My interactions in the bloggernacle have been sufficient, I believe, to support my comments above, and discounting them based on my putative ignorance would probably be a mistake on your part.  I recognize, though, that my comments seem to bother you in a visceral manner (for reasons I&#8217;m not quite clear on) and are not having the effect I intended, so I&#8217;ve offered to drop it.</p>
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		<title>By: a random John</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-77766</link>
		<dc:creator>a random John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mfranti,

I feel comfortable insulting DKL as he is the most reviled person in the bloggernacle, he knows exactly what I mean, and is big enough to take it.  Frankly I&#039;ve done it before and we&#039;re still friends.  I don&#039;t feel like I could name other names here without repercussions, because some people are more sensitive thank DKL.  I&#039;m a coward.

But I suppose that I could safely point out that on this very blog, GST, who I am also friends with, really stepped over a line in my mind once upon a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mfranti,</p>
<p>I feel comfortable insulting DKL as he is the most reviled person in the bloggernacle, he knows exactly what I mean, and is big enough to take it.  Frankly I&#8217;ve done it before and we&#8217;re still friends.  I don&#8217;t feel like I could name other names here without repercussions, because some people are more sensitive thank DKL.  I&#8217;m a coward.</p>
<p>But I suppose that I could safely point out that on this very blog, GST, who I am also friends with, really stepped over a line in my mind once upon a time.</p>
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		<title>By: a random John</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-77765</link>
		<dc:creator>a random John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jimbob,

To be more accurate, I told you that if you think that Steve Evans has never been castigated then you don&#039;t know jack shit about the bloggernacle.

By saying that I&#039;m not trying to establish a floor for participation or say that you are inadequate.  Your participation is always welcome.  If you or anyone else says things that are ignorant and insulting then I&#039;m inclined towards correction.  I was probably more that a little too insulting in my reply, for which I am sorry.

If you don&#039;t care about the history and personalities behind this community that is fine.  You can certainly participate without such knowledge.  But if you want to remain in ignorance and also spout off about a topic on which you&#039;re admittedly uninformed, well that&#039;s just a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimbob,</p>
<p>To be more accurate, I told you that if you think that Steve Evans has never been castigated then you don&#8217;t know jack shit about the bloggernacle.</p>
<p>By saying that I&#8217;m not trying to establish a floor for participation or say that you are inadequate.  Your participation is always welcome.  If you or anyone else says things that are ignorant and insulting then I&#8217;m inclined towards correction.  I was probably more that a little too insulting in my reply, for which I am sorry.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t care about the history and personalities behind this community that is fine.  You can certainly participate without such knowledge.  But if you want to remain in ignorance and also spout off about a topic on which you&#8217;re admittedly uninformed, well that&#8217;s just a bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbob</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=908&#038;cpage=2#comment-77764</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;jimbob, on this thread one might think that you are getting away with insulting me, not understanding my most basic comments from other blogs, and not knowing anything about the Bloggernacle. Nothing could be further from the truth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

1.  I&#039;m honestly not trying to insult.  I guess I was trying to figure out why some in the bloggernacle get away with more than others, a question which seemed tangentially relevant to why many MMB&#039;s choose not to participate here.  That&#039;s all.  I&#039;m clearly not addressing that question very well, and so I&#039;ll let it lie.

2.  Steve, I&#039;m not trying to twist your words.  Really.  But that is how I interpret them.  I&#039;m not married to that interpretation, though, if you&#039;d like to disabuse me.

3.  Again, I read these blogs with some frequency.  I probably go to at least one of the big ones a day.  But ARJ told me I didn&#039;t know &quot;jack shit&quot; about the bloggernacle, so I had to assume that my participation here was not at his level and therefore inadequate for his purposes.  I certainly don&#039;t claim to follow as closely as others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>jimbob, on this thread one might think that you are getting away with insulting me, not understanding my most basic comments from other blogs, and not knowing anything about the Bloggernacle. Nothing could be further from the truth.</p></blockquote>
<p>1.  I&#8217;m honestly not trying to insult.  I guess I was trying to figure out why some in the bloggernacle get away with more than others, a question which seemed tangentially relevant to why many MMB&#8217;s choose not to participate here.  That&#8217;s all.  I&#8217;m clearly not addressing that question very well, and so I&#8217;ll let it lie.</p>
<p>2.  Steve, I&#8217;m not trying to twist your words.  Really.  But that is how I interpret them.  I&#8217;m not married to that interpretation, though, if you&#8217;d like to disabuse me.</p>
<p>3.  Again, I read these blogs with some frequency.  I probably go to at least one of the big ones a day.  But ARJ told me I didn&#8217;t know &#8220;jack shit&#8221; about the bloggernacle, so I had to assume that my participation here was not at his level and therefore inadequate for his purposes.  I certainly don&#8217;t claim to follow as closely as others.</p>
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