Comments on: 20/80

By: TStevens

TStevens — Thu, 07 May 2009 12:55:46 +0000

They keep trying to make me part of the 20%, but I resist!

By: SCW

SCW — Thu, 07 May 2009 07:57:13 +0000

20% complain about doing all the work.

By: MCQ

MCQ — Mon, 04 May 2009 05:08:57 +0000

who would lie on an online poll?

The 45% of people who said they are part of the 20% who do all the work. Maybe some of them are just delusional, but most of them are liars.

By: Jerry

Jerry — Sun, 03 May 2009 15:56:21 +0000

MCQ who would lie on an online poll?

Floyd you make it sound as if the ward leadership is actually doing something besides attending meetings. I was a Stake missionary a few years ago. We went out 2 nights a week and I could call to make an appointment and get turned down and my companion a former member of the Bishopric would call the same person for the same night and get in. One guy a member of the EQP told me I wasn’t worth his time because I would never be his Bishop. I think your ten members may have been suck ups not necessarily workers.

There seems to be a disconnect as to what is the heavy lifting or work. But I do agree mostly with the poll results clearly no ward is worth attending at all if there isn’t at least close to half of the members pulling together. Some actual leadership is needed if activity is that low.

By: Floyd the Wonderdog

Floyd the Wonderdog — Sun, 03 May 2009 11:55:22 +0000

In our ward we have about 10 people who do all the heavy lifting. When I was EQP, I called them the S.T.O.P. committee (same ten old people). The name stuck. The rest are quite pleased to sit on their butts and let the others work. We have quite a few people who are willing to refuse a calling, any calling. I asked one brother why he wouldn’t accept any calling and he replied that he wanted things to be like in his former (Methodist) church. He just wanted to sit on the back bench and let the minister do all the work. We then discussed section 76, valiancy, and exaltation. It changed his life. Welcome to the S.T.O.P. committee.

By: MCQ

MCQ — Sat, 02 May 2009 17:40:49 +0000

24% of people who took this poll are LYING!

By: ed42

ed42 — Sat, 02 May 2009 14:14:25 +0000

Ardis, Talk about what? The Brethren getting paid?

By: Ardis Parshall

Ardis Parshall — Sat, 02 May 2009 03:45:23 +0000

ed42, when you start putting in the hours and producing work of the quality of those who are supported, then let’s talk.

By: ed42

ed42 — Sat, 02 May 2009 03:28:34 +0000

“Is it true that 20% of members do 80% of the work?” Yes, because they have not learned how to say no.

“If so, are you part of that 20%?” No, because I have learned to say no.

If the people at the top can get paid (I mean receive a stipend) for their working in the ministry, perhaps we ought to extend that model to those at the bottom.

By: Jerry

Jerry — Sat, 02 May 2009 03:09:16 +0000

I think your numbers above make the point you are trying for here. Currently 46% of the respondents think they are the 20%. My experience is some work has lots of people and other things are left to a few. I also learned to say no but I only said it a couple of times and then I stopped getting asked to participate or help.

At the end of the every banquet or dinner there is half a dozen people washing dishes putting tables away and 20-30 people standing around solving the worlds problems. Both of those groups would say they were doing the most work in the ward. The priesthood leader that is standing there talking to somebody thinks that is his calling.