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	<title>Comments on: Fool-proof Proof of God</title>
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		<title>By: coventryrm</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-85450</link>
		<dc:creator>coventryrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spirituality 

Many comments back in this thread I was questioned on how could an Atheist believe in Spirituality.  

My son just recently started working for an organization called Telos in Orem Utah that is a treatment center for at risk teens.  I was looking over their website and I thought the way they defined Spirituality hit the nail on the head for me and thought I would share.  

&quot;Spirituality:  We believe spirituality is a person’s ability to connect to a purpose greater than oneself.  It allows one to understand and live principles of goodness.  It also allows the mind and spirit control physical and emotional impulses.  Spirituality is an essential component in the development of individual worth and moral reasoning.&quot; 

I was telling my Son how I liked this definition and that I had run into resistance from people of faith saying that it didn&#039;t make sense for an Atheist to claim spirituality, he responded with the following comment. 

&quot;so when you are talking to reactionary Christians like me, use the word humanist and we&#039;ll think of the Renaissance instead of Lenin&quot;

Just thought I would share.</description>
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<p>Many comments back in this thread I was questioned on how could an Atheist believe in Spirituality.  </p>
<p>My son just recently started working for an organization called Telos in Orem Utah that is a treatment center for at risk teens.  I was looking over their website and I thought the way they defined Spirituality hit the nail on the head for me and thought I would share.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Spirituality:  We believe spirituality is a person’s ability to connect to a purpose greater than oneself.  It allows one to understand and live principles of goodness.  It also allows the mind and spirit control physical and emotional impulses.  Spirituality is an essential component in the development of individual worth and moral reasoning.&#8221; </p>
<p>I was telling my Son how I liked this definition and that I had run into resistance from people of faith saying that it didn&#8217;t make sense for an Atheist to claim spirituality, he responded with the following comment. </p>
<p>&#8220;so when you are talking to reactionary Christians like me, use the word humanist and we&#8217;ll think of the Renaissance instead of Lenin&#8221;</p>
<p>Just thought I would share.</p>
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		<title>By: Achick</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-85292</link>
		<dc:creator>Achick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the one thing that would prove to an Atheist is having to explain to God why the atheist survived his own birth and denied all the proof that is before us on a daily basis that science says&quot; it is because it is.&quot; Kind of hard to look God in the face and call him a deception. Just an Angel placed on earth to be a sticker in the side of none believers. IMHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the one thing that would prove to an Atheist is having to explain to God why the atheist survived his own birth and denied all the proof that is before us on a daily basis that science says&#8221; it is because it is.&#8221; Kind of hard to look God in the face and call him a deception. Just an Angel placed on earth to be a sticker in the side of none believers. IMHO</p>
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		<title>By: coventryrm</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-85110</link>
		<dc:creator>coventryrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well like I said a long time ago, if someone could move MT Bachelor a little closer to Portland it would save me some driving time. I would very much appreciate it.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well like I said a long time ago, if someone could move MT Bachelor a little closer to Portland it would save me some driving time. I would very much appreciate it.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-85107</link>
		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m hoping it won&#039;t come to that coventry, but hey, whatever you need!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hoping it won&#8217;t come to that coventry, but hey, whatever you need!</p>
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		<title>By: coventryrm</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-85019</link>
		<dc:creator>coventryrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being struck dumb would convince me if it came as a direct result of such a challenge, or even seeing one of you move a mountain with your faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being struck dumb would convince me if it came as a direct result of such a challenge, or even seeing one of you move a mountain with your faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-84959</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, my sarcasm tag again failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, my sarcasm tag again failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-84958</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My  tag must not have gone through. Alma&#039;s arguments against Korihor are shockingly poor (e.g., what proof do you have that God *doesn&#039;t* exist? [Alma 30:40], aren&#039;t you AFRAID of God, why tempt him? Argument from design, Argument from popularity, argument from authority [Alma 30:44]), but even the song-and-dance show to make it legitimate (oh, so Korihor gets his in the end, as presumably all heathen nonbeliever anti-Christs will, with a dazzling sign from God of muteness) is just offensive. 

Also, according to Alma, all atheists are really theists deep down inside who are just under the devil&#039;s power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My  tag must not have gone through. Alma&#8217;s arguments against Korihor are shockingly poor (e.g., what proof do you have that God *doesn&#8217;t* exist? [Alma 30:40], aren&#8217;t you AFRAID of God, why tempt him? Argument from design, Argument from popularity, argument from authority [Alma 30:44]), but even the song-and-dance show to make it legitimate (oh, so Korihor gets his in the end, as presumably all heathen nonbeliever anti-Christs will, with a dazzling sign from God of muteness) is just offensive. </p>
<p>Also, according to Alma, all atheists are really theists deep down inside who are just under the devil&#8217;s power.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth R.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-84954</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not good enough for me.

The mere fact that a being has magic powers doesn&#039;t automatically make him worship-worthy in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not good enough for me.</p>
<p>The mere fact that a being has magic powers doesn&#8217;t automatically make him worship-worthy in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: MCQ</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-84950</link>
		<dc:creator>MCQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear it Andrew!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear it Andrew!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew S.</title>
		<link>http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=970&#038;cpage=3#comment-84944</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;believe in god or you will be struck dumb.&quot;

That&#039;s a god I can believe in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;believe in god or you will be struck dumb.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a god I can believe in!</p>
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