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“You Keep Saying That Doctrine, I Don’t Think It Means What You Think It Means”

Rusty - September 26, 2005

After I read Geoff’s recent post I began writing a comment. Realizing it would unnecessarily derail the thread I decided to make the snark in my own forum. And because this is now a blog post rather than a comment I now have to make it like three paragraphs rather than one, just so it looks like I put a lot of time and thought into it. Sheesh, the lengths I go to prevent threadjacking…

Geoff’s post can be summed up thusly, “We often read X as instructions to do Y. I don’t think that is what X means. I think X means Z” (if you’re interested in X, Y and Z, go to Geoff’s actual post as his content is of no use to me here). How many Bloggernacle blog posts are a different shade of this same hue? “The word ‘perfect’ ACTUALLY means…”, “Feasting upon the words of Christ ACTUALLY means…”, “Exaltation ACTUALLY is…” All I have to say is… “COME ON!” (picture Gob saying this and try not to laugh) I mean, we’ve contradicted just about every major scripture that ever meant anything to me. Pretty soon you’re going to tell me that Lehi and Sam didn’t have huge biceps like Nephi.

Now, I’m not saying that I disagree with the conclusions the writers are coming to. On the contrary, I’ve learned a great deal and now read the scriptures much more critically. I’m grateful that all these wise bloggers have opened my understanding. I am, however, not so grateful for how stupid they’ve made me feel for not seeing what they saw first.



  1. “COME ON!” (I laughed.)

    Your opening line was a great reference to a great movie, but in the interest of internal consistency, you might have titled it “You’ve made a huge mistake…”

    Now to the substance of your post–it’s funny; I was thinking the exact same thing today, mostly in terms of my own approach to, say, teaching Sunday School. The desire to be new, to be fresh, to not be boring is intense (and especially so in the crowd that likes people to read what they think, eg. bloggers).

    Where you go all self deprecating, though, I tend toward the accusatory: I was contemplating whether a post on this tendency to be “new” was in a sense a prideful spurning of the prophets and tradition we’ve been handed.

    (NOTE: That’s NOT my final answer; I was just mulling it over.)

    In either case, this tentative position allows me to end my already too long comment echoing your conclusion. People who presume to put their own interpretations over tradition?


    Comment by Justin H — September 26, 2005 @ 11:23 pm

  2. LOL!

    Geoff’s the name, being a jerk’s the game.

    BTW – Everyone knows Sam was scrawny. Nephi and Jacob had the big guns in the family…

    Comment by Geoff J — September 27, 2005 @ 12:15 am

  3. I think the term is “fetchers”, Rusty.

    Comment by Silus Grok — September 27, 2005 @ 1:06 am

  4. Rusty, you deserve 1000 points. And Free Chicken.

    Comment by RoastedTomatoes — September 27, 2005 @ 1:13 am

  5. I’m with RT. Award yourself the points, and photoshop yourself onto the cover of next month’s Poof.

    Comment by Justin H — September 27, 2005 @ 1:32 am

  6. Rusty, you want me to spell check my work, I do have a difficult time with “Gob” saying anything.

    But your point is well taken.

    I have similar thoughts.

    Comment by don — September 27, 2005 @ 2:20 am

  7. Don,
    Gob is a character on the tv show Arrested Development. You should know this stuff, COME ON!

    Comment by Rusty — September 27, 2005 @ 9:36 am

  8. I laughed too. Then I tried to picture the scene where Gob is reading the clubhouse menu to Lucille II: “turkey sandwich… with CLUB SAUCE.”

    Comment by Steve Evans — September 27, 2005 @ 9:40 am

  9. Arrested Development?

    Comment by Kim Siever — September 27, 2005 @ 10:54 am

  10. Kim, you’ve just been kicked out of the cool club. Google Arrested Development. Then watch it religiously. It is the most correct show on television and will get you closer, etc.

    Comment by RoastedTomatoes — September 27, 2005 @ 11:45 am

  11. Amen and amen.

    Comment by Rusty — September 27, 2005 @ 12:12 pm

  12. I guess Kim and I are both in the uncool club. Trash TV, I don’t get it!

    Comment by don — September 27, 2005 @ 12:47 pm

  13. Arrested Development is the funniest show on television.

    Comment by jjohnsen — September 27, 2005 @ 5:26 pm

  14. Arrested development? Talk about threadjacking!…
    However, if you just keep the mindset that the ‘nacle is the philosophies of men mingled with scripture (though often some fascinating philosophies), you learn to take everything with a grain of salt.
    Oh, and Sam was the one with the harriest armpit in the world.


    Comment by Bret — September 27, 2005 @ 6:37 pm

  15. A friend of mine, in referring to some scriptures, says that she always pictures God saying them with the “you do too know what I mean” voice …

    Comment by Stephen M (Ethesis) — September 27, 2005 @ 10:40 pm

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