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Which is More Important – Pre-mortal, Mortal, or Millenium Life?

Don - October 31, 2006

I’ve given some thought to this question, probably not enough thought. Here are some of my thoughts: First the longer eternity is, the shorter our mortal life is. And since eternity is really really long then mortal life is really really short and for some even shorter. How then can so much importance be placed on something so short?

Our mortal life is less than a blink of an eye in the eternal perspective, how can so much rest on what I do in less than a blink of an eye?

One of my “cop-out doctrines” is that our pre-mortal life lasted for a really really long time…some would say an eternity. During that time, some of it under the direct influence of God and Jesus I pretty much formed who I really am. How could I not become the core me considering the circumstances. I was taught, associated with others, had a chance, or chances to rebel, and became me. If I beleive that then this mortal life is a place to gain a body and continue being who I really am.

Yes, having a mortal body does offer different experiences than my pre-mortal body had. Does that make me a different person? Does that really change who I am? Many have entered this life and left it in short order. We have been told that they were so righteous all they needed was to gain a body. What’s up with that, they get a free ride to the other side?

Ok, what about our Millenium life? Those who are living when Christ comes again, and those who will be in the morning of the first resurrection will have 1,000 years to work on perfecting themselves before the final judgement. So if I didn’t do quite well enough in my mortal life and I make it into the Millenium I have 1,000 years without Satan and his influence and problems to become who I should be.

Considering the small changes I see in myself, my attitude, my living the commandments as I look back over the years, I can see the Millenium as a great gift. I actually think I can become a pretty good person if I have 1,000 years to work on me.

So can I answer my own question? If you’re good enough in the pre-mortal then this mortal life is nothing, or might have been nothing. And if that’s so, then that type of person should do well in the Millenium and pass final judgement with flying colors. If not so good in the pre-mortal then you get a real mortal life with everything it offers. Hopefully you make it out good enought to get a full 1,000 years in the Millenium. If not so good, or bad in the pre-mortal, then you get a real mortal life with everything it offers, you screw up here and you end up coming at the end of the Millenium, no time to fix things and you’re screwed for eternity.

I had better repent some more!!!


  1. Don, you had me laughing. And I am not even LDS.

    I don’t believe you and I were pre-mortal (see my blog entry, today, on http://www.heartissuesforlds.org), but I readily acknowledge the imperfections of my mortal life.

    As far as millenium life, I have been studying this in the Bible. I believe Ezekiel 40-48 describes this life. Do you?

    Just curious.

    Comment by Todd Wood — October 31, 2006 @ 3:35 pm

  2. And to think I turned out normal…

    Comment by Rusty — October 31, 2006 @ 3:40 pm

  3. I’ve always wondered about how much of what we are in this life is who we really are. Not sure I can explain this well. But it seems like so much of who we are is dependent on physical things that won’t be with us later. Chemical imbalances, ADHD, health issues, etc, all affect our thinking and our emotional selves.

    I like to make the analogy of our vision. We can see straight ahead. If we concentrate, we can see stuff in our peripheral vision. But there’s all that stuff behind us we can’t see. That’s how I view mortal life. There’s so much going on spiritually around us, and before we came here, that we can’t see. And I wonder if that’s what we are in this life—a fraction of our true selves.

    Comment by Susan M — October 31, 2006 @ 4:16 pm

  4. Susan, thanks for your comments. They have given more to think about…your vision analogy is terrific.

    Comment by Don Clifton — October 31, 2006 @ 5:37 pm

  5. Todd, I’m sorry you’re laughing. I find nothing in your blog or comments, nor in the book of John anything that is in disagreement with a pre-mortal life. I don’t connect John’s comments about him / his relationship to Jesus / or the sequence in their birth as anything to do with pre-mortal life – only their mortal life and relationship.

    Comment by Don Clifton — October 31, 2006 @ 5:43 pm

  6. What about the ol’ “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks” syndrome? One of the hardest parts of life (and possibly all existence?) is getting used to our ways and the way we do things. If that happens through the pre-mortal into mortal and post-mortal life, repentence is probebly all the harder.

    I always thought of normal as “terrestial.” So good luck with that! (j/k)

    Comment by Bret — October 31, 2006 @ 8:03 pm

  7. Don,

    Great post. This life is way too short for it to be some kind of final test for all eternity for sure. I like the pattern given in our holy temples the best. We all are here on the Telestial kingdom right now and if we repent in our mortal lifes or in spirit prison from our sins we can be heirs to the Terrestrial Kingdom for the thousand years in order to perfect ourselves and our desires in a righteous and wholesome manner. If we endure faithfully through this 1000 year period, we will be given an inheritance on the right hand of God while all the rest will be cast out.

    Comment by Rob Osborn — October 31, 2006 @ 10:27 pm

  8. Don:

    I think our pre-mortal life dominates who we are and how we will be judged ultimately. I think this life for most is a quick technicality to wrap up a few details in preparation for an eternal life after the resurrection.

    Comment by Eric Nielson — November 1, 2006 @ 6:41 am

  9. http://ethesis.blogspot.com/2006/10/blog-traffic-history-themes-and-posts.html

    I write about what it means to be just a thousand years old.

    Comment by Stephen M (Ethesis) — November 1, 2006 @ 9:35 pm

  10. So much of who we are and what we become in this life is, in fact, determined by our genetics — our general states of physical and mental health, our athletic and cognitive abilities, our appearance and level of attractiveness. (Numerous studies on this last factor alone — not to mention common sense — all agree that it’s *very* significant to the results we will attain in life). Apparently, whoever is in charge of doling out the most desirable genetic traits must have reason to distribute them quite unfairly.

    When a baby’s life is cut short by a genetic mutation (or other circumstance over which it appears to have no control) — which happens all the time — are we to conclude that it was a result of its own choosing prior to this life, or as a result of an omniscient creator who intentionally gave it out?

    Good and evil are concepts that only make sense in the context of mortality. That which is “good” enhances life (actually, our ability to propagate and thereby preserve our own genes), that which is “evil” destroys it — hence it’s a value system based on this standard. An immortal being would find this set of values completely irrelevant. (If you can’t die, what needs would you have? Certainly very few which resemble the needs of this life — perhaps the need to somehow avoid boredom, but that’s about it). Therefore, if this life is supposedly a preparatory state for the next, why is that which is claimed to be most important (i.e. our individual responses to choices of “good” vs. “evil”) almost completely irrelevant to the next?

    Comment by Paul — November 2, 2006 @ 8:31 pm

  11. Don, let me explain . .
    It was this comment, “What’s up with that, that they get a free ride to the other side” that produced some chuckles. Fair enough? And you can laugh all you want at any thing I post.

    In reading my blog on Being versus Becoming, you don’t see any difference between the Greek verb, en, and the other verb, egenoto?

    Comment by Todd Wood — November 3, 2006 @ 5:20 pm

  12. If the true doctrine of Christ and the early churches, were still intact, we could clearly see the our re-incarnations change the whole picture. All will be “saved”
    eventually, we will pay our Karmic debt, by coming back here and fixing the crap we created, experience the first ressurection (our awareness 0f our Divinity) and then our “illumination” the second ressurection, and then we will be with the big souls doing big things, in Spirit. Fun stuff!

    Comment by Eastman-Spiritual adventurer — November 5, 2006 @ 1:13 pm

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