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What Good is Prophecy?

Don - October 4, 2007

My brother and I were having an off blog discussion about Gospel Doctrine class–boring–and an “advanced” scripture study. His premise was all we really need is faith, repentence baptism, the H.G. and endure to the end, all the rest is just fluff.

So the scripture stories (Daniel, Joseph, Esther, Joshua etc.) are important because they give us nice examples of what we should do and be. But what about the prophecies?

Opps maybe I should back up first. I guess I have to agree with him and his premise. If all we did were those basics we’d be ok. That’s really the essence of becomeing Christlike. That being said, then what about the prophecies in the scriptures?

Maybe I should be using my scripture study time, when I’m trying to understand Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy, or Isaiah or Matthew 24, and do service, go to the concordance and study faith more, or endure something else to the end.

I relish the mysteries…they are only mysteries until we understand them. I enjoy deep research, digging for interesting nuggets, looking at the anti-christ, the great coming world leader, the signs of the last days, and junk like that. What’s wrong with having a SS class, and or church written materials for such study?

I think finding those truths in prophecy, studying and getting those “ah ha” experiences builds faith. But on the other hand they’re not necessary. They won’t save me. Listening to conference this weekend, doing what we are admonished to do now in our time I guess will save me. So maybe I should throw out the fluff and work on what’s important.


  1. I think finding those truths in prophecy, studying and getting those “ah ha” experiences builds faith. But on the other hand they’re not necessary. They won’t save me.

    To some, perhaps those “ah-ha” moments are necessary for their faith. I honestly don’t think there is such as thing as “fluff” in the Gospel. Not everything makes sense, sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s not necessary.

    Comment by Cheryl — October 4, 2007 @ 1:17 pm

  2. I think the basic four (Faith, repentance, baptism, Gift of the Holy Ghost) ARE the “Mysteries of Godliness”. If we truly understood them, we would be Gods.

    Hmmmm… Maybe I’ll blog about that…


    Comment by Mark Hansen — October 5, 2007 @ 6:01 am

  3. Mystery is a word that we use negatively, usually for things that don’t matter and are presently beyond our ken. Such mysteries we are counseled to avoid. In contrast, “the mysteries of godliness” are, we know from modern scholarship, the ordinances of godliness. “O, I beseech you,” says Joseph Smith, “go forward and search deeper and deeper into the mysteries of godliness.” It is a commandment. Where are we to search? In the house of God. Why there? Because the temple is dedicated to that purpose, because there we make covenants to be true to what we understand, not just learning out of curiosity but absorbing into our souls what we most need to understand. And there we covenant to keep these sacred things sacred.
    Joseph Smith wrote from Liberty Jail, “The things of God are of deep import and time and experience and careful and ponderous and solemn thoughts can only find them out. Thy mind O man if thou wilt lead a soul into salvation must search into and contemplate the darkest abyss and the broad expanse of eternity, thou must commune with God.”

    This previous quote comes from a Truman G. Madsen talk “The Temple and the Atonement”

    The ordinances, including temple ordinances, are the mysteries of godliness and their deepest symbolic meanings.

    Otherwise I can’t help but quote D&C 130
    18 “Whatever principle of intelligence we attain unto in this life, it will rise with us in the resurrection.
    19 And if a person gains more knowledge and intelligence in this life through his diligence and obedience than another, he will have so much the advantage in the world to come.”

    So yeah the basics will get us through (saved) but so will a mark of 50% on a test, but I’d still rather have a mark of 100%. The one with 100% is more prepared to apply the knowledge where the other may have to brush up. No one will reach 100% in life but we can try our best, and then D&C 130 will apply.

    “Enduring to the end” is far too broad a subject for clear interpretation. To me it means everything we can do past the basics, which puts into question if the basics really are sufficient enough, which I believe is the question in the original post, to which I feel may be almost impossible to answer. So what good is prophecy? I think it lies in the broad description of enduring to the end.

    Comment by Gunner — October 5, 2007 @ 3:42 pm

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