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Nine Moons » Blog Archive : Is Satan Afraid of God? » Is Satan Afraid of God?

Is Satan Afraid of God?

Don - December 1, 2007

We are usually afraid of someone if they have power over us or our situation. We are afraid of our parents because they can punish us. We are afraid of our boss because he/she can fire us. We are afraid of some people because they can control or influence others who effect us.

But what about Satan?

Is Satan afraid of God? God has power over Satan in certain areas, but what can He really do? God has already pronounced Satan’s fate. Doesn’t Satan know what he’ll be doing for eternity…where he’ll be?

What else can God do to him? If there isn’t anything else, then God doesn’t pose a threat to Satan. If no threat then is there any reason for Satan to be afraid of God?

If there is something else God can do to Satan, what is it? And if there is something else does God hold that over Satan’s head? Does He promise Satan if he’ll only be so bad then he won’t get punished anymore? Or if Satan will be good up to this measurement then he gets a “blessing” or less of a cursing?

If there is nothing else to threaten Satan with, then I don’t see why he would be afraid of God. And maybe that’s why Satan (then Lucifier) was so defiant in the garden of eden. He pretty much stood up to God until God finally dismissed him.

25 Comments »

  1. I have heard that the root of the emotion “hate,” is fear. I know that Satan must hate God with all his might, feeling revenge, jealousy, and anger. If so, then at the base of it all, must be an underlying fear of some sort. If not, maybe just a supreme selfishness.

    Could we also classify Satan as a narcissist? Can spirits have a personality disorder? :-)

    Comment by meems — December 1, 2007 @ 7:05 pm

  2. I have heard that the root of the emotion “hate,” is fear. I know that Satan must hate God with all his might, feeling revenge, jealousy, and anger. If so, then at the base of it all, must be an underlying fear of some sort. If not, maybe just a supreme selfishness.

    Could we also classify Satan as a narcissist? Can spirits have a personality disorder? :-)

    Comment by meems — December 1, 2007 @ 7:07 pm

  3. The scripture that immediately comes to mind is James 2:19, about the devils believing in God and trembling. I’ve always assumed that was trembling out of fear, but who knows? My gut feeling is that the devil must still fear God. Even though I agree that God probably can’t do anything worse to Satan, it seems that the devil still fears him. I can’t give a real reason why that would be, maybe it’s mixed in with his hatred of God, some irrational fear stemming from his memory of being completely cast out by God? Tough question, I like it.

    Comment by austin smith — December 1, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

  4. The scripture that immediately comes to mind is James 2:19, about the devils believing in God and trembling. I’ve always assumed that was trembling out of fear, but who knows? My gut feeling is that the devil must still fear God. Even though I agree that God probably can’t do anything worse to Satan, it seems that the devil still fears him. I can’t give a real reason why that would be, maybe it’s mixed in with his hatred of God, some irrational fear stemming from his memory of being completely cast out by God? Tough question, I like it.

    Comment by austin smith — December 1, 2007 @ 7:13 pm

  5. I don’t know if Satan fears God, but considering Satan’s goal is to get as many of us to follow him, he could fear God in the sense that God can do things to thwart his goal and thereby make him more miserable.

    Comment by Horebite — December 1, 2007 @ 9:08 pm

  6. I believe that Satan is “afraid” of God for the same reason we as sinners, don’t want to be in the presence of God. Hell is more of a state of mind than an actual place. If we are really bad people, who have no remorse for the sins we’ve committed, we will not want to be in the presence of God. It’s a consciousness kind of thing. Being in the presence of God is like being naked in front of others. We know He knows all about us, all our deeds, good ones and bad ones.
    Satan, being the worst among our brothers and sisters, has many more reasons to feel ashamed in God’s presence for all the terrible things he has done to humanity.
    In the end, being placed away from God is an act of mercy. We would suffer much more if we would live with God in our decadent state.
    Satan’s case is a little different than ours because we all know that the out-of-darkness is the worst place anybody can be placed. I’m afraid there is no much that has been revealed to us about this dark place, so we’ll probably never really understand this whole God-Satan relationship.

    Comment by rmarshan — December 2, 2007 @ 2:23 am

  7. I believe that Satan is “afraid” of God for the same reason we as sinners, don’t want to be in the presence of God. Hell is more of a state of mind than an actual place. If we are really bad people, who have no remorse for the sins we’ve committed, we will not want to be in the presence of God. It’s a consciousness kind of thing. Being in the presence of God is like being naked in front of others. We know He knows all about us, all our deeds, good ones and bad ones.
    Satan, being the worst among our brothers and sisters, has many more reasons to feel ashamed in God’s presence for all the terrible things he has done to humanity.
    In the end, being placed away from God is an act of mercy. We would suffer much more if we would live with God in our decadent state.
    Satan’s case is a little different than ours because we all know that the out-of-darkness is the worst place anybody can be placed. I’m afraid there is no much that has been revealed to us about this dark place, so we’ll probably never really understand this whole God-Satan relationship.

    Comment by rmarshan — December 2, 2007 @ 2:24 am

  8. I don’t know if Satan is afraid of God. I sometimes get a sense that this whole adventure is scripted. Satan has said that he’s doing what has been done before.

    Comment by Dan — December 2, 2007 @ 3:33 am

  9. I think Satan is a double agent. The one thing that is necessary to the plan of salvation is an adversary. One thing that could really screw up everything is Satan encouraging everyone to be good, and remove the temptation for evil/selfish/narcissistic acts. It would follow that since everybody is somewhat good, there wouldn’t be enough resistance for an individual to stand out as being excellent and therefore eligible for exaltation.

    No, Satan is more likely a calling of sorts – like the Holy Ghost. He’s the black ops group sent in before the primary invasion. He’s the one component of the plan of salvation that has to play the role and follow the script. I bet we’re in for a big surprise when we get to the other side. Satan’s not stupid; if he was really acting in a way to bring the whole house crashing down, he’d do a 180.

    Comment by Chad — December 2, 2007 @ 11:54 am

  10. I think Satan is a double agent. The one thing that is necessary to the plan of salvation is an adversary. One thing that could really screw up everything is Satan encouraging everyone to be good, and remove the temptation for evil/selfish/narcissistic acts. It would follow that since everybody is somewhat good, there wouldn’t be enough resistance for an individual to stand out as being excellent and therefore eligible for exaltation.

    No, Satan is more likely a calling of sorts – like the Holy Ghost. He’s the black ops group sent in before the primary invasion. He’s the one component of the plan of salvation that has to play the role and follow the script. I bet we’re in for a big surprise when we get to the other side. Satan’s not stupid; if he was really acting in a way to bring the whole house crashing down, he’d do a 180.

    Comment by Chad — December 2, 2007 @ 11:55 am

  11. Chad- I’ve had thought along those lines, too. That perhaps Satan is fulfilling a part of the Lords plan by providing the choices we are here to make. How could we prove ourselves worthy if there were no evil in the world? I know that’s overly simplistic, but in a nutshell, I think there might be something to it.

    Comment by tracy m — December 2, 2007 @ 8:06 pm

  12. Chad- I’ve had thought along those lines, too. That perhaps Satan is fulfilling a part of the Lords plan by providing the choices we are here to make. How could we prove ourselves worthy if there were no evil in the world? I know that’s overly simplistic, but in a nutshell, I think there might be something to it.

    Comment by tracy m — December 2, 2007 @ 8:06 pm

  13. Chad- I’ve had thought along those lines, too. That perhaps Satan is fulfilling a part of the Lords plan by providing the choices we are here to make. How could we prove ourselves worthy if there were no evil in the world? I know that’s overly simplistic, but in a nutshell, I think there might be something to it.

    Comment by tracy m — December 2, 2007 @ 8:07 pm

  14. Sorry for the double post – cursed explorer!

    Comment by chad — December 3, 2007 @ 12:57 am

  15. Chad, and Tracy M, if you make Satan into a good boy who is not intrinsically evil, but is merely filling an assignment from God, then you make God the author of all evil, including the very real pain and suffering of innocent parties that are the result of evil. And if evil is an artificial thing that would not exist without God’s telling Satan to pretend, there is no virtue in resisting evil, any more than there would be virtue in staying up nights to guard your lettuce from being spray painted by green fairies wearing purple dinosaur costumes.

    Comment by Ardis Parshall — December 3, 2007 @ 5:59 am

  16. Ardis- I don’t think Satan is pretending to be evil- I think he might be fulfilling a role God needed filled- perhaps unknowingly. The Lord could do away with him at any time, if he wanted to. But we need the temptation of the world. We need to be tested. I mean, what would mortality be without temptation and evil?

    Comment by tracy m — December 3, 2007 @ 9:39 am

  17. OR…perhaps God has a God that he reports to. I don’t believe that God has the power to “do away with [Satan] at any time, if he wanted to”. Perhaps God operates and adheres to universal laws as well.

    Comment by c page — December 3, 2007 @ 12:40 pm

  18. Chad, and Tracy M, if you make Satan into a good boy who is not intrinsically evil, but is merely filling an assignment from God, then you make God the author of all evil, including the very real pain and suffering of innocent parties that are the result of evil.

    Would that challenge the righteousness and wisdom of deity, or merely challenge your personal concept of deity? In the context of Mormonism’s “plan of salvation,” providing the necessary opposition for mortals to exercise their agency seems to be a loving act, calculated for their ultimate blessing.

    And if evil is an artificial thing that would not exist without God’s telling Satan to pretend, there is no virtue in resisting evil. . .

    Tell that to Job. The whole scenario of deity and satan placing bets on Job’s response to misfortune seems quite akin to deity “telling satan to pretend,” and yet Job certainly was ascribed virtue.

    Comment by Nick Literski — December 3, 2007 @ 3:22 pm

  19. From what I understand of truly evil people, my guess is that, by now, Satan is very much insane. He is viciously intellgient, but out of his mind and problably beyond what we think of as simply being afraid. Utterly possesed and embodying fear and hatred. And loathing, fearing, hating the presence of God.

    I read an intersting thing written by a Catholic exorcist a few years back. He says that once he has the demon in his power, he forces them to say their own name. He says that at all times they will resist to the utmost having to say their own name. That the sound of their own name is deeply painful, even repgunant, to them. I don’t know if there is anything to his exorcisms – but I think this says a great deal about the nature of evil, stripped of all trappings. And, really, my heart breaks to think of it.

    ~

    Comment by Thomas Parkin — December 3, 2007 @ 11:21 pm

  20. I think there is much more to Lucifer falling than we know about. It just seems like if he was so completely disenchanted with the whole plan of God, why not leave go be his own god somewhere? Clearly he has the knowledge and most likely the capability- being second only to God and Christ. Instead, driven by jealousy, he comes to tempt people here and ends up helping God drive his plan forward.

    In the end, most of Satan’s power lies in his tongue and abilities of deception and suggestion. Man’s ability to be evil is in and of himself; I think the same is of God, and of all sentient beings. He is the author and root of evil – and goodness. He simply chooses good. I’m thinking it went like this right before the great council: “Lucifer, I have a perfectly nasty little job for you…”

    Comment by Chad — December 4, 2007 @ 11:35 pm

  21. Still the question to ask is where does satan get his
    power (if from God then he would be an agent of God) and
    if satan does not derive his power from God he is soverign
    in his own right and it is assumed on parr with God or he
    is an agent of another being that is challenging the power
    of our God? If satan as we understand is a fallen angel
    in defiance with God (as many of the people on earth are)
    then perhaps God is allowing satan to defy him for a period of time (to allow him to submit) before he (God)comes to force the submisson of satan and the people on
    earth. Still why must satan be chained for a thousand
    years and then set free? If satan is the sole source of
    evil on earth then why would God turn him loose ? In the
    Bible people were struck dead for disobeying God so
    why would God not just strike satan dead? Did satan
    perhaps eat from the Tree of Life and so is immortal and
    cannot die and still the question arises who put the
    Tree of Life in the Garden and why ? If God created the
    Tree of Life why, and if not who put it there? After the
    fall of Adam and Eve , God sent angels to guard the Tree
    of Life to keep Adam and Eve from eating from it , when
    he could have just destroyed it ? Where is the Tree of
    Life today? A final possibilty is that while satan ate
    from the Tree of Life ( that God put in the Garden) and
    this made him immortal and a being that God could not
    destroy , still this would indicate that God was not all
    knowing and all powerful and if we are Christians this
    is contrary to what we have been taught and gets down to
    accepting by faith what is the Bible .
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    Comment by harry — March 7, 2009 @ 10:46 pm

  22. I too have often wondered about this issue. God being all knowing and all powerful would know how satan would turn out, therefore why create him?
    Why create people who are only end up in hell?

    In creating satan,the root of all evil, does God bear that responsibility?

    Comment by michelle — July 20, 2009 @ 2:29 pm

  23. It seems that for it to make any sense to me, Satan would have to actually believe he can win.

    Comment by coventryrm — July 20, 2009 @ 4:23 pm

  24. Satan deceives the whole world. Mary K. Baxter says there are Christians and pastors in hell because they were deceived by the devil.

    Comment by ChihuahuaBrave — August 20, 2009 @ 8:24 am

  25. We will really never know for sure whether satan is afraid of God. But what we do have evidence is that he is a creature of habit and old habits die hard. I believe that satan respects and tremble’s at God’s power and is in awe of it…..With that said, then why would he still confront God? It is who he is. It is his character. His mind set and make up, I believe, always him to push forward even if he knows the outcome. He is attempting to prove to God that he is God’s worthy apponent and he will not bow down. We must remember that satan, the little horn, and the false prophet are the diabolical trinity. They are the opposite of the god head. I don’t believe that if God disclosed proof of his mercy to any of the three they would accept it. He, satan, cannot girp the idea of bowing the knee to God…….We have to attempt to understand, if we can, PURE hatred.

    Comment by Gary — June 1, 2012 @ 11:48 pm

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