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Rusty - May 1, 2009

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  1. I’m part of the underappreciated and chronically overlooked 80% that do a very demanding and difficult 20% of the work. We work hard to make sure that the constantly-in-the-spotlight, 20% don’t have to do ALL of the work. Cuz then we’d never hear the end of it. You’re welcome.

    Comment by MCQ — May 1, 2009 @ 2:37 pm

  2. I am grateful for the people who put so much time into making sure all the things necessary for the Church to run smoothly are there.

    I also think it is very scary to be a Bishop, etc. Becaus even though the Brethren insist in one way or another that they should not be overburdened with meetings and time consuming activities, we all know how it goes in real life…

    I belong to a “cursed” race in a white ward, so I don’t get callings anyway. Therefore I voted yes on the first and no on the second.

    Comment by Jesse — May 1, 2009 @ 4:35 pm

  3. Jesse–your comment makes me very sad. I wish I could share my calling with you. I was in a ward once where I went for 7 months without a calling (and I was getting bored doing nothing) so I dropped a heavy hint and got a calling the next week. I really need a calling to feel engaged. If I couldn’t hold one, I would likely become less active.

    Comment by ESO — May 1, 2009 @ 5:52 pm

  4. I wonder how those who believe in this 20/80 thing define “the work.”

    I also wonder how much of the most effective work is done by the 20.

    It’s quite possible that this is entirely correct, by it sounds more like a truism that really only means that some members of a ward are more engaged and/or more visible than others.

    Comment by Wm Morris — May 1, 2009 @ 6:13 pm

  5. MCQ #1 I used to be in the overworked under appreciated category and then I just learned to say no. Now I put my efforts into my family, friends and my health.

    #4 Wm Morris I do thin that the more visible the calling is, the increase in pressure. Amount of true work might not be the case for those in a visible calling. I think callings that require a lot of visible and non visible work would be Bishop, Youth Leaders including Scouts, and RS President.

    Comment by JA Benson — May 1, 2009 @ 6:32 pm

  6. I think your numbers above make the point you are trying for here. Currently 46% of the respondents think they are the 20%. My experience is some work has lots of people and other things are left to a few. I also learned to say no but I only said it a couple of times and then I stopped getting asked to participate or help.

    At the end of the every banquet or dinner there is half a dozen people washing dishes putting tables away and 20-30 people standing around solving the worlds problems. Both of those groups would say they were doing the most work in the ward. The priesthood leader that is standing there talking to somebody thinks that is his calling.

    Comment by Jerry — May 1, 2009 @ 8:09 pm

  7. “Is it true that 20% of members do 80% of the work?” Yes, because they have not learned how to say no.

    “If so, are you part of that 20%?” No, because I have learned to say no.

    If the people at the top can get paid (I mean receive a stipend) for their working in the ministry, perhaps we ought to extend that model to those at the bottom.

    Comment by ed42 — May 1, 2009 @ 8:28 pm

  8. ed42, when you start putting in the hours and producing work of the quality of those who are supported, then let’s talk.

    Comment by Ardis Parshall — May 1, 2009 @ 8:45 pm

  9. Ardis, Talk about what? The Brethren getting paid?

    Comment by ed42 — May 2, 2009 @ 7:14 am

  10. 24% of people who took this poll are LYING!

    Comment by MCQ — May 2, 2009 @ 10:40 am

  11. In our ward we have about 10 people who do all the heavy lifting. When I was EQP, I called them the S.T.O.P. committee (same ten old people). The name stuck. The rest are quite pleased to sit on their butts and let the others work. We have quite a few people who are willing to refuse a calling, any calling. I asked one brother why he wouldn’t accept any calling and he replied that he wanted things to be like in his former (Methodist) church. He just wanted to sit on the back bench and let the minister do all the work. We then discussed section 76, valiancy, and exaltation. It changed his life. Welcome to the S.T.O.P. committee.

    Comment by Floyd the Wonderdog — May 3, 2009 @ 4:55 am

  12. MCQ who would lie on an online poll?

    Floyd you make it sound as if the ward leadership is actually doing something besides attending meetings. I was a Stake missionary a few years ago. We went out 2 nights a week and I could call to make an appointment and get turned down and my companion a former member of the Bishopric would call the same person for the same night and get in. One guy a member of the EQP told me I wasn’t worth his time because I would never be his Bishop. I think your ten members may have been suck ups not necessarily workers.

    There seems to be a disconnect as to what is the heavy lifting or work. But I do agree mostly with the poll results clearly no ward is worth attending at all if there isn’t at least close to half of the members pulling together. Some actual leadership is needed if activity is that low.

    Comment by Jerry — May 3, 2009 @ 8:56 am

  13. who would lie on an online poll?

    The 45% of people who said they are part of the 20% who do all the work. Maybe some of them are just delusional, but most of them are liars.

    Comment by MCQ — May 3, 2009 @ 10:08 pm

  14. 20% complain about doing all the work.

    Comment by SCW — May 7, 2009 @ 12:57 am

  15. They keep trying to make me part of the 20%, but I resist!

    Comment by TStevens — May 7, 2009 @ 5:55 am

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