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The 5 People You Meet In The Bloggernacle

Guest - August 3, 2009

Submitted by Kaimi

Five people I wish were still blogging with me:

1. Kristine. I don’t know that T&S has ever fully recovered from the day she left. For me, it was the first sign that the honeymoon was over. The bloggernacle had energetic people and strong personalities, and sometimes some people didn’t all fit together.

2. Jim. Like Solomon (with 699 fewer wives), dignified and wise. He faded rather than leaving outright, but it still feels the same: He’s not blogging with me anymore, and the world was a better place when he was.

3. Melissa. Smart, articulate, and utterly inimitable. The purest, most earnest feminist I’ve known. And damn, she was smart.

4. Ardis. The one-person Mormon history expert of the bloggernacle, and how. Her laptop should be declared a national treasure.

5. Adam. Heavens, we clashed. We still do. He was and still is a very good writer, and I liked it better when we were on better speaking terms.

Five people I wish were still blogging, period.

1. Bob and Logan. The old Sons of Mosiah site was a great one, and they supplied the nacle with quality comments back when we were still using Haloscan. Ahh, the memories.

2. The missing Fransdens. Has anyone seen a couple of sisters, long brown hair, downright wicked writing chops?

3. Lisa B. We had a blog dust-up or two back in the day, and I was usually in the wrong. The bloggernacle was brighter when she was at FMH.

4. Christian. The Spinozist. Obey Aaron. I’d be happy with any of them, really. I still don’t know what a Spinozist is, but that’s okay.

5. All of the missing M* bloggers. Whenever did Bryce and Grasshopper fall off the face of the earth?

6. D. Fletcher. (Sorry, I lied about the list being five.)

7. Damn, I think I’m going to have to end this list. Apologies to the many other missed folks who weren’t mentioned. (And don’t ask how many of the people on these lists are my fault. It’s a number more than one, and less than — well, hopefully, less than five.)

Who are you missing, from the days of bloggernacle past?

Cass Sunstein writes about the peril of the internet and the rise of the Daily Me. The peril is that people will just find sites and communities that echo their own ideas back at them.

Early on, the bloggernacle was a messy, noisy, glorious melting pot. Those were the days when Bob and Logan and Aaron and Cooper blogged together just because they talked and enjoyed each others’ company, when Ebenezer Orthodoxy blogged at FMH of all places. And it was freaking amazing — just look at Ziff’s numbers for proof. I still go back and read old T&S sometimes, those days in 2004 back when everyone was still friends, even if we were talking about gay marriage. Life made sense then.

It’s still messy and noisy, but we’ve self-sorted now, and we control our own echo chambers. It’s more peaceful, in some ways. But damn, the Daily Me can get old after a while. (And of course, 9M is as tribal and narcissistic and self-congratulatory as the rest of us. Hell, there’s a fifth anniversary series.)

Seeing the familiar faces guest posting here brings back memories of the good times; and of how it ended, slowly, death by a thousand paper cuts. Blogging isn’t just smiles and hellos. It’s the bittersweet tang of goodbyes, and the realization that nothing gold can stay. It’s a lot like life, that way.

Of course, it’s not unmitigated sadness, either. I’ve had a lot of fun to meeting and interacting with new people over the past few years, Marc and Jack, Jess and the ZDs, Margaret and Ardis and Segullah and everyone else. It’s not that I want to freeze the bloggernacle in 2004/2005 amber. But I still hate the goodbyes, the way that, as Semisonic said, “every new beginning comes from some other beginning’s end.”

Some day, in this life or the next, we’ll sit down over a few glasses of [something tasty] and figure it all out: Friendships renewed, stories told, words of reconciliation. And then, of course, we will plan a new blog.

Heaven is a group blog with friends, where the posts are fun and lively, where the commenters feel welcome, and where the trolls leave us alone.


  1. Kingsley!

    Comment by gst, award-winning commenter — August 3, 2009 @ 1:15 pm

  2. I miss Jeff G., Mogget, Daniel Peterson stopping by, Janet at FMH, Kristen J, Blake Ostler, and 10 Questions. I miss when the community was about the religion and not a subset of the people thereof. I miss when conversations didn’t have to refer back to old posts and when it didn’t feel like we’d already discussed things a million times.) I miss not knowing who I didn’t like and did like, so I was more willing to listen to them.

    Also, I miss me.

    Comment by Matt W. — August 3, 2009 @ 2:14 pm

  3. Amen to Kingsley. Where he went, I do not know. He was great. Always funny. Always an amazing read.

    Bryce I. And Dallin too. I wonder if he drops in and just looks around, at all.

    Like Kaimi, I kind of miss the old vibes. Those were great times.

    Comment by danithew — August 3, 2009 @ 3:55 pm

  4. I miss Christian, too.
    I haven’t been around as long as some of you, but…
    I miss the Narrator back when he was obnoxious.
    And remember Mark Butler? And I miss John Dehlin.
    Yeah, all the controversial ones. Did you expect any different?

    Comment by Bored in Vernal — August 3, 2009 @ 7:03 pm

  5. I miss the Mormon Wasp.

    Comment by Ardis Parshall — August 3, 2009 @ 7:36 pm

  6. Ardis:

    Good Call! I loved that blog. I will never forget Justin. What an Awesome guy!

    Comment by Matt W. — August 3, 2009 @ 7:38 pm

  7. BiV, Mark Butler now blogs as Mark D., and I really like him. I feel guilty for being a jerk to him back in the day.

    Comment by Matt W. — August 3, 2009 @ 7:39 pm

  8. Jim still posts regularly at LDS-Herm. However I think for many of us life got busy and the easy posts we felt strongly about had all been written. We needed more life experiences to write more. On the other hand I’ve been having a blast blogging about Appscript and Python at my tech blog.

    Comment by Clark — August 3, 2009 @ 7:40 pm

  9. Mark Butler and Mark D are the same person?!

    Comment by Eric Nielson — August 4, 2009 @ 8:34 am

  10. Do people still remember Celibate in the City?

    I just checked in there – after not writing since November 2008, CITC writes a recent July post that is touching, faithful and devastatingly vulnerable at the same time.

    Comment by danithew — August 4, 2009 @ 9:02 am

  11. Eric,

    Yes. But there were always two Mark Butlers (maybe three). The Mark Butler who has always hung around NCT and who was at M* for a little while has been going by Mark D. for a couple of years now.

    Comment by Geoff J — August 4, 2009 @ 9:09 am

  12. Yes, I knew Mark Butler blogged as Mark D, but they truly are NOT the same person. And Mark D may be nicer and more laid back, but Mark Butler (though he sure made me furious sometimes!) is the one I kinda miss..

    Comment by Bored in Vernal — August 4, 2009 @ 9:35 am

  13. Yes, I knew Mark Butler blogged as Mark D, but they truly are NOT the same person.

    Lol. I like Mark D better, but I have enjoyed them both.

    I miss Jeff G and Christian Cardall, and Miranda Park Jones.

    In a different way, I miss J. Stapley.

    Comment by Jacob J — August 4, 2009 @ 11:27 am

  14. I miss Ryan and Davis.

    RE: Frandsens
    I will see one tomorrow and I’ll see if I can lead her back.

    Comment by ESO — August 4, 2009 @ 12:43 pm

  15. Pre-automated Rusty. That’s who I wish were still blogging with me.

    Comment by CJ Douglass — August 4, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

  16. Great post, Kaimi. I miss the Bloggernacle of yesterday as well.

    Comment by Brian Duffin — August 5, 2009 @ 11:57 am

  17. Long story short: No one ever took the old Mark Butler seriously on questions of religion, so I decided I couldn’t either. As far as I know, there are only two Mark Butlers floating around though.

    I miss a lot of people mentioned here as well.

    Comment by Mark D. — August 5, 2009 @ 9:44 pm

  18. I love that my Rusty-on-autoblog thing has legs.

    Comment by Tom — August 5, 2009 @ 11:05 pm

  19. But I guess being in autoblog mode is better than being in sleep mode like the rest of us.

    Comment by Tom — August 5, 2009 @ 11:06 pm

  20. I miss actually blogging…

    Comment by Seth R. — August 6, 2009 @ 7:44 pm

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